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03-11-2016, 12:40 PM
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nosaint3
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Mostly Louisiana,Illinois,Michigan
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hitches
have used hensley since 2006 at 300lbs weight and 20000lbs with two airbags.
love it. Fulltimer so I never attempt to take it out. over $3000
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03-11-2016, 07:59 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Berryville, Arkansas
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Originally Posted by DKRITTER
Little John, we also have the Reese Goose Box and have grown to really like it. It is an approved hitch for CC trailers and replaces the pinbox on the front of the trailer.
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How is chucking with the Goose Box compared with the 5th wheel hitches?
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2015 Ford F-350 CC DRW Lariat
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03-11-2016, 09:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Haslet Texas
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Sorry Joe, this is our first 5th wheel and therefore I don't have a reference for you.
I can say the ride pulling a 15K 5'r is very easy and stepping up from a TT has been a night and day difference.
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03-12-2016, 07:45 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Berryville, Arkansas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKRITTER
Sorry Joe, this is our first 5th wheel and therefore I don't have a reference for you.
I can say the ride pulling a 15K 5'r is very easy and stepping up from a TT has been a night and day difference.
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Yup. Pulling a 5er is a lot better than a bumper pull. Some roads cause "chucking" which is the truck and 5er bouncing at a different frequency and feels like the truck and 5er are having a tug of war.
Good luck and safe travels with your new 5th wheel!
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2015 Ford F-350 CC DRW Lariat
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03-12-2016, 05:35 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Calgary,Alberta
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Thanks to everyone for the great replies and info!
Rightly or wrongly just dropped off our truck and will be picking it up next week(Tuesday,if we don't get the snow they are talking about) with a Pullrite system!
Take care and be well!
LJ
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Truck 2013 GMC 3500 SLT HD Dully ,Ext.Cab,air bags.
Camper's:John,Angie,Coco & Norris
RV: 2011 Cedar Creek 34RLSA
Past RV's: Misc .tents,V.W.Campers('65,'69) 2012 Arctic Fox 25S.
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03-12-2016, 08:01 PM
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Senior Member
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Another vote for B&W.
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03-12-2016, 08:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Idaho
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Little John
Thanks to everyone for the great replies and info!
Rightly or wrongly just dropped off our truck and will be picking it up next week(Tuesday,if we don't get the snow they are talking about) with a Pullrite system!
Take care and be well!
LJ
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What I bought BEFORE I found out about B&W.
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2016 F350 6.7L LB CC Reese 28K 2014 Chaparral Lite 266sab
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." 2014 19 days camping 2015 17 days camping201620 days camping
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03-14-2016, 08:17 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Dacula, Georgia
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Consider the PIN BOX. I have had 2 fifth wheels, cross all road conditions. One a standard pinbox; chucking, bouncing and stuff in rv jarring all over. New fifth wheel; 37ft, has best TRAIL AIR, with inflatable cushion. Thousands of miles. NOTHING MOVES. NOTHING. BOTH RV's using same Curt hitch and SAME TRUCK. Both rv's were similar in length and weight. Only switched fivers to a rear living for more long term stay comfort as retirees. Went FROM Keystone to FR.
DO RESEARCH ON YOUR SPECIFIC NEEDS AND PLANS.
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03-14-2016, 08:49 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Between Pickles Gap and Toad Suck, AR
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Just installed.......ready to order TT:
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03-15-2016, 09:04 AM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 76
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Little John
Thanks to everyone for the great replies and info!
Rightly or wrongly just dropped off our truck and will be picking it up next week(Tuesday,if we don't get the snow they are talking about) with a Pullrite system!
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The Pullrite is a solid hitch. Once I saw how it captures the pin I was sold. The only downside (more of an upside really in the big picture) is that it is built to tighter tolerances than other hitches (as in, an extra decimal place). That, combined with the way the pin is locked in with the rotating plate instead of the jaws, can lead to some frustrations for the first few couple/uncouple cycles. I had to give it a good bump to get it to lock on the first couple of trips. And to get it to unlock it is imperative to make sure you have pressure reversing against the hitch when you pull the handle. Basically, after you've dropped the landing gear and unloaded the weight off the truck, get back in and reverse against the trailer, set the parking brake, and then put it in park. The hitch will release easily with a finger tug. Try to unlock it with any load pulling on the rotating plate and it will not move. It can be frustrating at first, but when you consider that it just means there is less slop in the coupling it becomes a good thing.
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03-21-2016, 08:46 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2016
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B&W turnover and Anderson Ultimate Aluminum II on top of a BedRug. No chucking...cleanest, quietest setup I have had to date. I have a short bed. My second choice would have involved the B&W companion and sidewinder pinbox. Quite pleased with the Anderson and it only weighs 32#
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2014 36 CKTS: Titan Disc Brakes, EMS, Trav'lr, 20k GooseBox
2016 Ram 3500 CTD 4x4 CCLB DRW, Laramie, Factory Rear Air Suspension, 3.73
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03-21-2016, 09:04 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MIFarmer
The Pullrite is a solid hitch. Once I saw how it captures the pin I was sold. The only downside (more of an upside really in the big picture) is that it is built to tighter tolerances than other hitches (as in, an extra decimal place). That, combined with the way the pin is locked in with the rotating plate instead of the jaws, can lead to some frustrations for the first few couple/uncouple cycles. I had to give it a good bump to get it to lock on the first couple of trips. And to get it to unlock it is imperative to make sure you have pressure reversing against the hitch when you pull the handle. Basically, after you've dropped the landing gear and unloaded the weight off the truck, get back in and reverse against the trailer, set the parking brake, and then put it in park. The hitch will release easily with a finger tug. Try to unlock it with any load pulling on the rotating plate and it will not move. It can be frustrating at first, but when you consider that it just means there is less slop in the coupling it becomes a good thing.
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X2- You'll learn a few tricks over time. I can pull the four pins on mine and have a clean bed in about 5 minutes. I also found if you have to disconnect while angled beyond the proper angle you can pull a couple of pins and just lift the capture plate off the truck.
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03-21-2016, 09:23 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DJNCJ
B&W turnover and Anderson Ultimate Aluminum II on top of a BedRug. No chucking...cleanest, quietest setup I have had to date. I have a short bed. My second choice would have involved the B&W companion and sidewinder pinbox. Quite pleased with the Anderson and it only weighs 32#
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Question to DJNCJ.
I have the exact same set up and love it but everything you have looks different than my set up. Your Andersen Hitch is assembled in a different way and your B&W chain hooks are not next to the ball. I will attach picture to show the variations. My Andersen is one year old. B&W is 3 years old. What's up with the variations?
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2017 Open Range RES 347, 2022 F 450 4X4 LWB 6.7.
Hayes Autoformer, Moryde SRE 4000, Sailun Tires, Andersen Aluminum hitch.
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03-21-2016, 10:25 AM
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Blog: RVroadtripper.com
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Near Dallas Texas
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Andersen just modified their design and its now the Andersen Ultimate Aluminum II. After a few thousand shipped there were a few incidents where the driver had to slam hard on his brakes to avoid an accident and this caused a slight bend on the forward support poles. I was one of those incidents. Important to note is that the hitch did NOT fail, just a slight bend. I used the hitch for about 3000 more miles towing before I got around to reporting it. It was towing just fine but Andersen still wanted to replace it for free and they prepaid the return ship on my old one. I think its a good thing when designs evolve and improve. The one I have now is still the original design and I see no reason to be concerned.
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2016 Wildcat 295RSX - 2015 GMC 2500HD DblCab Duramax/Allison 4x4 Z71 6.6' Bed
Maxxis 235/80/16E; AirBags w/AirLift1; mor/Ryde Rubber Pinbox; Andersen UltimateII Alum. 5erhitch on Reese Flipball w/Curt 4" offset; LCI Ground Control3; King Dishtailgater; Traveling with 10' Portabote;
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03-21-2016, 01:49 PM
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Member
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[QUOTE=Jack350;1137077]Question to DJNCJ.
I have the exact same set up and love it but everything you have looks different than my set up. Your Andersen Hitch is assembled in a different way and your B&W chain hooks are not next to the ball. I will attach picture to show the variations. My Andersen is one year old. B&W is 3 years old. What's up with the variations?
To add... I think the safety chain location is likely due the the different design needed for Ford vs. Ram??
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2014 36 CKTS: Titan Disc Brakes, EMS, Trav'lr, 20k GooseBox
2016 Ram 3500 CTD 4x4 CCLB DRW, Laramie, Factory Rear Air Suspension, 3.73
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03-21-2016, 08:46 PM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hbillsmith
Andersen just modified their design and its now the Andersen Ultimate Aluminum II. After a few thousand shipped there were a few incidents where the driver had to slam hard on his brakes to avoid an accident and this caused a slight bend on the forward support poles. I was one of those incidents. Important to note is that the hitch did NOT fail, just a slight bend. I used the hitch for about 3000 more miles towing before I got around to reporting it. It was towing just fine but Andersen still wanted to replace it for free and they prepaid the return ship on my old one. I think its a good thing when designs evolve and improve. The one I have now is still the original design and I see no reason to be concerned.
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I had to re-read this a couple of times to make sure I understood it correctly. The hitch structure physically permanently deformed from a hard stop without impact? And this is with a trailer significantly lighter than the hitch's 24k "rating"? Ho-lee-smokes! Even if it walked itself in and out of my truck bed I wouldn't want that between my kids and the camper!
No reason to be concerned? That hitch gets its strength from triangulation, and the triangle failed. You had no idea how much or little stress would have pushed it past the breaking point. Or what would have happend had there actually been an impact. That's scary stuff. I'm guessing no J2638 sticker on those hitches?
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03-21-2016, 09:02 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
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The hitch bent.... That's a fail in my books!!
2016 Sabre 36QBOK
2015 Ram 3500 CUMMINS
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03-21-2016, 09:31 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Where ever the trailer is parked
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I don't think I would want that hitch myself. I have been towing fifth wheel trailers, since 1977 when I bought my first one. I have had four different Hitch's, and have never had one bend, in any way. I now have a B&W Companion type hitch, and I like it the best of any of the hitch's I have had, it is easy to take out of the truck, and leaves nothing on the bed of the truck. I have had a lot of panic stops and I have taken the trailers off road, with no problems. The trailer I have now is a 36' toyhauler that weighs 18,000 loaded. I have pulled 30.000lb 5ers with the B&W.
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03-21-2016, 11:42 PM
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Blog: RVroadtripper.com
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Near Dallas Texas
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Please do not add unintended interpretations. The bend I experienced could almost be considered cosmetic. The hitch continued to perform well even after. If I were to post pictures you wouldnt even be able to tell. In anycase it appears to be a moot point since improvements in the latest design as well as enhancements to the material strength (not visible but confirmed by Andersen) have eliminated the risk of even the small distortion I experienced. The Andersen is a great product and one I continue to use and recommend. As usual, those that oppose still do not own.
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2016 Wildcat 295RSX - 2015 GMC 2500HD DblCab Duramax/Allison 4x4 Z71 6.6' Bed
Maxxis 235/80/16E; AirBags w/AirLift1; mor/Ryde Rubber Pinbox; Andersen UltimateII Alum. 5erhitch on Reese Flipball w/Curt 4" offset; LCI Ground Control3; King Dishtailgater; Traveling with 10' Portabote;
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03-22-2016, 06:08 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Louisiana
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Replace the pinbox with a Reese Goosebox and there is nothing in the bed except for the hitchball, which can also easily be removed and only weighs 5-10 pounds. I have only experienced one fast brakin-slowdown combined with a quick maneuver when a rather large vehicle wanted to occupy my lane at the same time I was there. The truck/trailer performed as they were intended.
I stopped and inspected everything and all was just fine. I continue to be impressed with the turnoverball-Goosebox setup. And it's the softess pulling fiver hitch I've ever used. Install is uncomplicated, and easy, but is even easier with two people. I have a buddy with a 17,000 lb toy hauler. After looking at mine, he ordered the 20k Goosebox. I helped him install it. He absolutely loves his new hitch setup, and often remarks about how comfortable his toy hauler is to tow now.
For anyone looking for a new fiver hitch, at least check out the Reese Goosebox.
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