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Old 08-21-2015, 03:48 PM   #11
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We have wiggle only when we have a very un-level site, and the 6-point level-up picks the wheels up on one side of the rig (which is rare). However, while at the Frog Rally in Goshen I saw several Cedar Creeks with JT strong arms and their owners said they worked great. Soooo….

We bought a set of JT Strong arms at the Lippert booth in the vendors area and scheduled for Lippert to install then at the customer factory at Bldg 39 in Goshen. When we arrived at the Lippert factory, the technician there said they could not install the JT Strong arms on a 6-point level-up system. He said once the arms are installed it would not allow the ram to rotate naturally thus will cause a failure at some point.

I told them that their salesman sold them to me and the attachments that are required to be welded on to the landing jack pads are sold in their catalog………

So, I’m still waiting on a refund……

I use two 1 x 12s stacked right now, but I’m going the 6x6x12 block route and save the $250. The weight trade of the blocks vs the Strong Arm is essentially the same.

So if you have wiggle, like others have said, limit the stroke of the jacks when possible.
Thanks! That is what I was led to believe. Like you I use 6x6x12 blocks which seem to work well.
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Old 08-21-2015, 06:54 PM   #12
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Do you actually have the JT Strongarms on the front electric jacks? I thought JT were not compatible with the Lippert self leveling system?
Sorry.... I had the impression the OP has the same leveling system as I with electric jacks. We have the Lippert 3.0 Leveling System.

Our Sabre was already prepped for JT's from the factory including the front jacks which had the 2nd from bottom hole drilled out to 1/2 inch for the Strong Arm brackets and they work great with our leveling system.

All this is moot with hydraulic jacks.
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:02 PM   #13
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Steady fast system had a little bounce up fwd and this stopped it
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Old 08-22-2015, 12:28 AM   #14
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I built 6 blocks out of 2x6s & put 3/4 plywood on the top & bottom & then painted them. I then put rubber matting on them to keep them out of moisture.
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We have a '13 CC 36CKTS with 6 point level-up that wiggled all the dang time. Before we left home almost 3 months ago I installed the JT Strong Arm system using Lippert's adapters that were welded to the round feet. Learning to loosen the JT's before extension or retraction is the only hard part of using this system. For the most part at just about every type of campground in 17 states we have not "wiggled" hardly at all. While in PA, I added 6x6 blocks under the feet and that took any remaining wiggle out of the RV.

Like I said earlier, REMEMBER to loosen the JTs before extending or retracting level up, otherwise you will encounter the twisting motion or worse you could conceivably damage an actuator. I think I have learned that tidbit over the course of our trip. BTW I tighten the wing bolts before we leave so that I don't loose one along the way. Try finding one of those at Walmart or Home Depot.

Also, the Lippert technical services engineer I spoke to said nothing about not installing JTs on a level-up system. In fact, the adapters we welded to the round feet are made specifically for our type of round feet on hydraulic cylinders.

Heck, don't take my word for it, check em out at www.http://store.lci1.com/hydraulic-jack-adaptor-lug ("These JT's Strong Arm™ Jack Stabilizer Adaptor Lugs make it possible to attach JT's Strong™ Arm Jack Stabilizers to round hydraulic foot pads popular on many fifth-wheel RV models")

Hope this helps with your wiggle problem. Travel safe and enjoy the journey!
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Old 08-24-2015, 04:33 AM   #16
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We have a '13 CC 36CKTS with 6 point level-up that wiggled all the dang time. Before we left home almost 3 months ago I installed the JT Strong Arm system using Lippert's adapters that were welded to the round feet. Learning to loosen the JT's before extension or retraction is the only hard part of using this system. For the most part at just about every type of campground in 17 states we have not "wiggled" hardly at all. While in PA, I added 6x6 blocks under the feet and that took any remaining wiggle out of the RV.

Like I said earlier, REMEMBER to loosen the JTs before extending or retracting level up, otherwise you will encounter the twisting motion or worse you could conceivably damage an actuator. I think I have learned that tidbit over the course of our trip. BTW I tighten the wing bolts before we leave so that I don't loose one along the way. Try finding one of those at Walmart or Home Depot.

Also, the Lippert technical services engineer I spoke to said nothing about not installing JTs on a level-up system. In fact, the adapters we welded to the round feet are made specifically for our type of round feet on hydraulic cylinders.

Heck, don't take my word for it, check em out at www.http://store.lci1.com/hydraulic-jack-adaptor-lug ("These JT's Strong Arm™ Jack Stabilizer Adaptor Lugs make it possible to attach JT's Strong™ Arm Jack Stabilizers to round hydraulic foot pads popular on many fifth-wheel RV models")

Hope this helps with your wiggle problem. Travel safe and enjoy the journey!
When I inquired about them when they installed mine. (after market) they told me I couldn't use them on the 6 point system. I had a set on already when they took my electric legs off. I was told that you can only put them on the big foot system for some reason. I'm not quite sure what the difference is between the level up system and the big foot system? So I sold my JT's after they installed the level up. Do you have the level up or big foot? impossible to get a straight answer from LCI. Do you just have them on the front landing gear or the rear to? Thanks for your answer.
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We have a '13 CC 36CKTS with 6 point level-up that wiggled all the dang time. Before we left home almost 3 months ago I installed the JT Strong Arm system using Lippert's adapters that were welded to the round feet. Learning to loosen the JT's before extension or retraction is the only hard part of using this system. For the most part at just about every type of campground in 17 states we have not "wiggled" hardly at all. While in PA, I added 6x6 blocks under the feet and that took any remaining wiggle out of the RV.

Like I said earlier, REMEMBER to loosen the JTs before extending or retracting level up, otherwise you will encounter the twisting motion or worse you could conceivably damage an actuator. I think I have learned that tidbit over the course of our trip. BTW I tighten the wing bolts before we leave so that I don't loose one along the way. Try finding one of those at Walmart or Home Depot.

Also, the Lippert technical services engineer I spoke to said nothing about not installing JTs on a level-up system. In fact, the adapters we welded to the round feet are made specifically for our type of round feet on hydraulic cylinders.

Heck, don't take my word for it, check em out at www.http://store.lci1.com/hydraulic-jack-adaptor-lug ("These JT's Strong Arm™ Jack Stabilizer Adaptor Lugs make it possible to attach JT's Strong™ Arm Jack Stabilizers to round hydraulic foot pads popular on many fifth-wheel RV models")

Hope this helps with your wiggle problem. Travel safe and enjoy the journey!
Mike, imagine my surprise when Lippert said they would not install them! I said, your catalog has them listed, I asked your salesman specifically about our 6-point system, and you (Lippert) sold them to me! Oh well, still waiting on Lippert to refund my $$.
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Jaygeo1, are you talking about the 6 point "electric" level up or the 6 point "hydraulic"
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Which 6 point system?

The Lippert Hydraulic 6 point level-up system is the one we have. I've ordered some Lynx blocks to put under each "point" to keep the extension reduced.....and "auto level" with the front lowered down manually in the beginning .....both these suggestions from the Forum members.
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Mike, imagine my surprise when Lippert said they would not install them! I said, your catalog has them listed, I asked your salesman specifically about our 6-point system, and you (Lippert) sold them to me! Oh well, still waiting on Lippert to refund my $$.

Got my refund today.
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