Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-19-2014, 11:35 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 146
6-pt leveling

Does the 6-pt leveling system constantly level the unit if there is a shift? i.e. ground is soft and rain tends to make one side level off a bit.

just wondered, as we hear some pops and things like the system is adjusting, though the leveling mon. is turned off. so not sure.

thanks.
__________________

__________________
stormy2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2014, 11:38 PM   #2
Plain Old Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Full Timing in South Louisiana
Posts: 1,938
Once it's set, it's set. Does nothing else on it's own. The pops are common in this system. Usually caused by air in the fluid, or I've notice just with temp changes from morning till evening. You can reduce this popping noise by adding the anti-stiction fluid recommended by Lippert. I'll post the instructions if I can find them.
__________________

__________________
John and Rebecca Dickson
Emma-7 / Little John-5 / Iva-1
Full Timing Again, Rev B
2013 Ford F-350 Lariat CC LB PSD
2015 SOB TT - With OC's Awning Poles (#8)
At least in Heaven, RVs will be perfect, and I won't have to keep fixing them.
BigJohnD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2014, 11:40 PM   #3
Plain Old Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Full Timing in South Louisiana
Posts: 1,938
Here you go.
Attached Files
File Type: pdf LCI Hydraulics Anti-Stiction Fluids.pdf (504.6 KB, 125 views)
__________________
John and Rebecca Dickson
Emma-7 / Little John-5 / Iva-1
Full Timing Again, Rev B
2013 Ford F-350 Lariat CC LB PSD
2015 SOB TT - With OC's Awning Poles (#8)
At least in Heaven, RVs will be perfect, and I won't have to keep fixing them.
BigJohnD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2014, 11:54 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 288
it is not constantly leveling. You are hearing very small movements of metal parts as explained by Lippert.

Quote:
If there is a popping noise in a Lippert leveling system, Lippert has approved adding a quart of anti-stiction fluid. Anti-stiction additives do not work by eliminating air from the system. They work by lubricating the hydraulic system so you do not hear the noise made by the valves in the system that are there to equalize or protect the system. Even though you are not running your hydraulics, temperature changes and load changes still affect the system and it will make slight changes which is what you are hearing.
From Wikipedia.

Quote:
Stiction is the static friction that needs to be overcome to enable relative motion of stationary objects in contact. Any solid objects pressing against each other (but not sliding) will require some threshold of force parallel to the surface of contact in order to overcome static cohesion. Stiction is a threshold, not a continuous force.
__________________
2014 Blue Ridge 3715BH <- Read the saga
2013 Sierra 3500HD Denali CCLB DRW 4x4 Duramax w/ Reese 20K
Camped: 2016=6, 2015=9, 2014=27

USN Retired (26 years), but not Retired retired
Home Port Orlando
Narboza is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2014, 07:32 AM   #5
Mddle of the Rd Extremist
 
MeepMeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 540
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigJohnD View Post
Here you go.
Thanks BigJohn......been wondering how to get rid of the poppin' noises. Of course they're always loudest at night (when it's cooler) when you're tippy toein' around, trying NOT to make any noise
__________________
Dan, Carolyn & The Bandit (1999-2015 RIP...)
MCPO (Retired)
United States Navy ('65 - '87)
2014 Cedar Creek 38FL
2013 RAM 3500 6.7L diesel DRW Crew Cab
"When you get to the fork in the road, take it....."
MeepMeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2014, 07:49 AM   #6
Plain Old Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Full Timing in South Louisiana
Posts: 1,938
We've done that procedure once, and the popping came back a little. Hadn't done round 2 of it yet. Curiosity got the best of me when it was new and doing that, so I measured the jack stroke on the 6 jacks. I checked every hour for a full day. There was actually a bit of change, but ever so slight.

We put jack stands right next to the front jacks on the frame just to see if it'd stop, and that completely rid of the popping. Like any hydraulic system, they will move a little. I can pick the front loader on the tractor up a little and let it sit, and it will do the same thing if you sit and listen long enough.


Sent by ME
__________________
John and Rebecca Dickson
Emma-7 / Little John-5 / Iva-1
Full Timing Again, Rev B
2013 Ford F-350 Lariat CC LB PSD
2015 SOB TT - With OC's Awning Poles (#8)
At least in Heaven, RVs will be perfect, and I won't have to keep fixing them.
BigJohnD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2014, 09:30 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 146
thank you for the link, reading up on it and see about trying that. also does anyone with the 6-pt leveling system use the tripod under the cap? I see my neighbors using the tripods, but they don't have the 6-pt leveling so was wondering if that is a normal thing to do. thanks again.
__________________
stormy2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2014, 09:39 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 288
We have a six point system and do not use a pin stabilizer. Our bed is on a slide out and is directly over the landing gear -- very stable.

Our issue with stability revolves around energetic kids at the other end of the trailer in the bunkroom. The entire bunkroom is behind the rearmost jacks so they can set the trailer rocking even with X-Chocks.
__________________
2014 Blue Ridge 3715BH <- Read the saga
2013 Sierra 3500HD Denali CCLB DRW 4x4 Duramax w/ Reese 20K
Camped: 2016=6, 2015=9, 2014=27

USN Retired (26 years), but not Retired retired
Home Port Orlando
Narboza is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2014, 09:50 PM   #9
Plain Old Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Full Timing in South Louisiana
Posts: 1,938
Tripod doesn't work well in our opinion. Some, but not much. Our plan is to build something similar to what others have done. Pretty much a combination of the JT Strongarm and Steadyfast idea. This in my opinion is about as good as it's gonna get in a trailer. We've used the X-chocks for years, but that doesn't solve the front or back end moving side to side like Narboza mentions.

I wonder what ever happened to not giving a crap about the camper moving. Used to none of that bothered me a bit, as it's a camper. The older I get, the grouchier and more picky I get I suppose.
__________________
John and Rebecca Dickson
Emma-7 / Little John-5 / Iva-1
Full Timing Again, Rev B
2013 Ford F-350 Lariat CC LB PSD
2015 SOB TT - With OC's Awning Poles (#8)
At least in Heaven, RVs will be perfect, and I won't have to keep fixing them.
BigJohnD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2014, 09:51 PM   #10
Plain Old Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Full Timing in South Louisiana
Posts: 1,938
Forgot to mention, Lippert does make a weld on tab for the level up feet, if one chooses to install a JT Strongarm set. I'm just going to make my own weld on tabs.
__________________

__________________
John and Rebecca Dickson
Emma-7 / Little John-5 / Iva-1
Full Timing Again, Rev B
2013 Ford F-350 Lariat CC LB PSD
2015 SOB TT - With OC's Awning Poles (#8)
At least in Heaven, RVs will be perfect, and I won't have to keep fixing them.
BigJohnD is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
leveling

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




ForestRiverForums.com is not in any way associated with Forest River, Inc. or its associated RV manufacturing divisions.


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:41 PM.