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Old 06-05-2019, 09:29 AM   #1
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I HAVE A CC CHAMPANGE 38EL 2019,I have been researching bike racks and not too many manufactures make bike racks for a fifth wheel with a 1 1/4 receiver .IF they do make them they are for a 2 inch hitch. ANY SUGGESTIONS.IM specifically looking for 5th wheel comparable.
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Old 06-05-2019, 09:56 AM   #2
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Not sure what you mean by "5th wheel comparable." You can put pretty much any bike rack on anything that has a receiver.

If what you mean is a rack "approved for RV use," Swagman makes several. Go to etrailer and look around.

I'm not sure what "approved for RV use" really means. I've been using a Thule TH990XT for about 10 years, on both my Roo 19 and my Mini Lite 2503S (as well as my truck). It's NOT "RV approved," but it works just fine. It fits 1-1/4" receivers, but has an adapter to fit 2" receivers. (I've had beefed up recievers welded to both TT's.)

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I'm interested in this as well. I used an adapter to use my 2 inch Thule 2 bike rack on the back of my 36CK. Watched with my back up camera to see them bouncing around due to the inadequate support of the 1.25 inch receiver on the camper. By the time I stopped, two of the rubber straps were missing from my rack and bikes were ready to fall off. For now I will stick with the 2 inch receiver I installed on the front of my F350.
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I'm interested in this as well. I used an adapter to use my 2 inch Thule 2 bike rack on the back of my 36CK. Watched with my back up camera to see them bouncing around due to the inadequate support of the 1.25 inch receiver on the camper. By the time I stopped, two of the rubber straps were missing from my rack and bikes were ready to fall off. For now I will stick with the 2 inch receiver I installed on the front of my F350.
Does your Thule utilize a pinch bolt as a hitch pin? Mine does, so no (very little) bouncing around.

The rack has a nut inside the racks drawbar that you screw the bolt into, then tighten with a wrench. You can put a lock on the opposite end. (It's also important to keep all the rest of the bolts on the rack tight, too, or you'll see some bouncing around.)



You can get the pin at etrailer:

https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories.../853-5917.html
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Will I do carry bikes sometimes on my Cedar Creek, I do not have any hitch on the trailer. I carry a Trek (mine) and my wife's Schwinn on the rear ladder. Works great with the bike rack which is a, Surco Bike Rack model no. 501BR. Here is a link to Amazon that carries this rack. https://www.amazon.com/Surco-501BR-L.../dp/B001GXO0F6

Just another suggest for carrying bikes.
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I bought a set of these...
https://store.lci1.com/storage-rack-...ed-373965.html

intending then to use it with this...
https://store.lci1.com/flip-down-slo...em-243621.html

The pivot hardware attaches to the frame, not the bumper. Unfortunately there is not enough clearance on my silverback to put it on in the way it is intended. I finally put it on backwards, which will allow me to put a rack on, but not flip it up.

I've fabricated a frame to hold bikes out of 2x2 aluminum framing. When I get it finished I'll post photos.

I had purchased a 1 1/4 " receiver bike rack that I was going to put on the factory hitch receiver, but it moved more than I liked.

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Does your Thule utilize a pinch bolt as a hitch pin? Mine does, so no (very little) bouncing around.

The rack has a nut inside the racks drawbar that you screw the bolt into, then tighten with a wrench. You can put a lock on the opposite end. (It's also important to keep all the rest of the bolts on the rack tight, too, or you'll see some bouncing around.)



You can get the pin at etrailer:

https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories.../853-5917.html
Yes it does, so no help.
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Will I do carry bikes sometimes on my Cedar Creek, I do not have any hitch on the trailer. I carry a Trek (mine) and my wife's Schwinn on the rear ladder. Works great with the bike rack which is a, Surco Bike Rack model no. 501BR. Here is a link to Amazon that carries this rack. https://www.amazon.com/Surco-501BR-L.../dp/B001GXO0F6

Just another suggest for carrying bikes.
Tried this also, on my Bighorn. The ladder standoffs broke and dragged my bikes. Won't do that again!
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My problem is more likely the lousy roads that we have to travel in the northeast. The 1.25 inch receiver just has too much flexibility to hold the rack securely in the rough conditions.
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My problem is more likely the lousy roads that we have to travel in the northeast. The 1.25 inch receiver just has too much flexibility to hold the rack securely in the rough conditions.
I would NEVER use a 1 1/4 bike rack, on the back of any RV. Especially a towable.
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Tried this also, on my Bighorn. The ladder standoffs broke and dragged my bikes. Won't do that again!
How many and how heavy were the bikes?

Something was terrible wrong with your ladder if the stand off's broke by carrying bikes! I know my bikes weigh less than my body weight and I go up and down my ladder all of the time!. Bikes weigh around 40LBs combined.
Another thing the down ward force of two bikes mounted on the ladder and secured to the ladder would not cause the ladder stand off's to fail!
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2 bikes, same weight. Have seen and heard of several similar failures.
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Ladder bike hangers, bumper bike racks and 1-1/4" hitches are accidents waiting to happen...bouncing around behind a camper, TT or 5er. So I'm fabricating a hitch point with dual 2" receivers for the 5th wheel. In-progress hitch mod in photo. 9/16 grade 8 hardware for attaching to frame. Bike platform design to come...
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Did you calculate the shear load on a 9/16 bolt? Grade 8 hardware does not really help you on shear strength, it really only works on tensile strength. You need to calculate the cross sectional area of the minor diameter area of the 9/16 bolt. When you do shear strength which is smaller then the 9/16 diameter of the bolt. I would prefer 5/8 or larger diameter for a shear strength on a bolt.
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Good point sir, perhaps reconsideration is in order. Per your recommendation I've upgraded the bolt diameter, now to find a drill bit large enough for the task.
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I replaced the 1 1/4 receiver hitch with a Class III 2 receiver hitch. Use a swagman 2 bike rack with no issues! 2014 Silverback 29RE

I would not trust the original hitch with anything. Class III hitch purchased on etrailer. Adjustable for any size camper.
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I replaced the 1 1/4 receiver hitch with a Class III 2 receiver hitch. Use a swagman 2 bike rack with no issues! 2014 Silverback 29RE

I would not trust the original hitch with anything. Class III hitch purchased on etrailer. Adjustable for any size camper.


https://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-RV_...per_Hitch.aspx
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I replaced the 1 1/4 receiver hitch with a Class III 2 receiver hitch. Use a swagman 2 bike rack with no issues! 2014 Silverback 29RE

I would not trust the original hitch with anything. Class III hitch purchased on etrailer. Adjustable for any size camper.
When we ordered our 2018 36CK2, we tried to specify that we wanted a 2" receiver hitch, but came with a 1 1/4 receiver instead.

CC indicated something about if they were to put a 2" receiver on, owners would start towing something cars, boats, etc. which they wouldn't warranty the frame then.

I contacted Swagman about the 1 1/4 platform carrier I had before we bought, which has an orange tag right on it, stating 'Not for use on back of Travel Trailer or Motorhome'. They said the whipping up and down would cause the carrier to fail. They recommended a 2" platform carrier version.

CC said that is why they put the 1 1/4" is to make sure it is used only for carrying bikes but never offered a platform bike carrier that would be able to use. Ends up my 1 1/4" receiver is useless as have never used it. Wish they would provide the option of one that would work ok in a 1 1/4".
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Meant to mention I may at some point replace the 1 1/4" with a 2" receiver so can take our bikes.
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I bought a set of these...
https://store.lci1.com/storage-rack-...ed-373965.html

intending then to use it with this...
https://store.lci1.com/flip-down-slo...em-243621.html

The pivot hardware attaches to the frame, not the bumper. Unfortunately there is not enough clearance on my silverback to put it on in the way it is intended. I finally put it on backwards, which will allow me to put a rack on, but not flip it up.

I've fabricated a frame to hold bikes out of 2x2 aluminum framing. When I get it finished I'll post photos.

I had purchased a 1 1/4 " receiver bike rack that I was going to put on the factory hitch receiver, but it moved more than I liked.

Jim
Checked the fit today and am pretty happy with it. The ends slide into the pivot hardware which are mounted to the frame. Two 3/4" bolts at each end keep it in the pivot mount.

I may also use a center support for the outboard frame using the 1 1/4" receiver.

I still have to knock any sharp corners off and paint.

Jim
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