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Old 11-04-2014, 09:19 AM   #31
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Been following this thread (and a couple similar) for a while now and did quite a bit of research which all basically boils down to the following conclusion:

Will an air bag kit or overload springs increase my trucks GVWR? If the back of your pickup sags and you’re considering adding some load support with helper springs, you may have not noticed the fine print “do not exceed vehicle's GVWR”. This is a commonly asked question by people looking to add extra load support to the rear of their truck or SUV with air bags or overload springs. The short answer is no, any form of load support will not increase your trucks GVWR.
Why won’t air bags increase my GWVR? First let’s look at what GVWR is. GVWR stands for gross vehicle weight rating and is determined by the manufacturer. It is the total combined weight of your truck and the trailer, including all passengers, fuel, water, dogs, cargo, etc.
There are many factors that go into determining your trucks weight rating and this is why an overload kit will not “up” the weight rating. When a vehicle is engineered they take into account many factors like frame strength, drive train, braking power, stability, performance, etc. So, for example if add an air bag kit that has a 5000 lb. rating, it may help with the stability and performance, but it will not increase your vehicles breaking power and therefore your vehicles GVWR will not increase

I'm going with the "experts" - who seem to be in the majority
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Old 11-04-2014, 09:44 AM   #32
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That still does not change what Ford says


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Sure it does just that Ford FIX or Repair Daily. Says they just won't warranty it in legal language. Same as they won't warranty it if you put a chip in. But say's you can't do it and get the benefits from it. Just legal talk and if anything happens they will not warranty it, I don't see how that increases your capacity except you wouldn't bottom out. A 3.73 geared F250 truck will handle it. Just my opinion. Have you ever seen the breaks and rotors on a 250, the biggest I have seen and the same as a F350. I think? I have that question out on another post to a mech. for over 25 years.
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Old 11-04-2014, 09:48 AM   #33
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So some guy tells a writer his lift kit gives him an additional 5K tow capacity so thus it must be true. All Ford said was that a lift kit will void your warranty. What they didn't print was the gear change that went along with the lift kit. You have to read between the lines here. A lower gear ratio (than you can order stock) will allow you to tow more but will also void your warranty. This is old news.


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Old 11-04-2014, 10:35 AM   #34
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It doesn't say you can't increase your tow rating by adding the lift kit, it says Ford won't warranty anything related to the lift kit.
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Old 11-04-2014, 10:44 AM   #35
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That's true. You could take a Ford F-150 and at it up right and do the same thing but Ford will laugh at you if do it and some part of the frame breaks. It comes down to what you feel safe at, I do lots of dumb things but I always try to make sure DW is safe


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That's true. You could take a Ford F-150 and at it up right and do the same thing but Ford will laugh at you if do it and some part of the frame breaks. It comes down to what you feel safe at, I do lots of dumb things but I always try to make sure DW is safe


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It should say fix it up right, the F-150


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Old 11-04-2014, 11:13 AM   #37
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Been following this thread (and a couple similar) for a while now and did quite a bit of research which all basically boils down to the following conclusion:

Will an air bag kit or overload springs increase my trucks GVWR? If the back of your pickup sags and youre considering adding some load support with helper springs, you may have not noticed the fine print do not exceed vehicle's GVWR. This is a commonly asked question by people looking to add extra load support to the rear of their truck or SUV with air bags or overload springs. The short answer is no, any form of load support will not increase your trucks GVWR.
Why wont air bags increase my GWVR? First lets look at what GVWR is. GVWR stands for gross vehicle weight rating and is determined by the manufacturer. It is the total combined weight of your truck and the trailer, including all passengers, fuel, water, dogs, cargo, etc.
There are many factors that go into determining your trucks weight rating and this is why an overload kit will not up the weight rating. When a vehicle is engineered they take into account many factors like frame strength, drive train, braking power, stability, performance, etc. So, for example if add an air bag kit that has a 5000 lb. rating, it may help with the stability and performance, but it will not increase your vehicles breaking power and therefore your vehicles GVWR will not increase

I'm going with the "experts" - who seem to be in the majority
At least you put "experts" in quotes.
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Old 11-04-2014, 01:57 PM   #38
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I had a Silverado 2500HD diesel and I was pulling a 34ft travel trailer and the truck just would not run right in cruise, it would not take a small overpass, transmission would go crazy. Someone told me to put better shocks on, that did no good, I was told to put air bags on, put on Firestone ride right. Truck rode level but it still would not pull that 34ft TT good. I put a fifth wheel hitch on and a 35ft camper and bingo truck pulled good and would stay in cruise. I have since traded for a 3500HD diesel and a CC. I wanted a 36RE CC but Ducky told me my SRW would not be a good fit for the 36RE. Maybe CC will come out with something I can pull in a few years, anyway DW likes the 30RL that we have and it does pull oh so good


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