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Old 02-19-2013, 05:35 PM   #11
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Op wanted an opinion, which I gave. I believe he will do what is best for him just as I am doing what I feel comfortable with and I am sure you are doing for yourself. I am not the weight police and who am I to judge what others do with what they have. I personally will not go buy a $60, 000 truck because of the beliefs or concerns of others no matter what is said. This is just my opinion if it is not agreed with that is fine but it works for me.
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Op wanted an opinion, which I gave. I believe he will do what is best for him just as I am doing what I feel comfortable with and I am sure you are doing for yourself. I am not the weight police and who am I to judge what others do with what they have. I personally will not go buy a $60, 000 truck because of the beliefs or concerns of others no matter what is said. This is just my opinion if it is not agreed with that is fine but it works for me.
I don't judge anyone nor do I think everyone needs a $60,000 truck. I don't feel like I'm the weight police either - I just like to make sure people are in a position to make an educated decision. Like I said, if you know the facts and are making an educated choice - far be it from me to impose my views.

I think the most helpful thing for your responses would be to acknowledge that the truck is or may likely be overloaded, but it should be fine because of "XYZ...". To simply say, "I do it all of the time" or even, "I've done more than that" doesn't help the uneducated posters who (I think) are asking because they want to learn. It was why I asked if you were within your manufacturer's constraints when you pulled 30,000 pounds - it's more information for the Op to make a decision on.

Take it or leave it, it's my $0.00 and a half.
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:43 PM   #13
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Wink Well I'll be danged

Maybe I been reading the wrong line of the Trailer Life Towing guide. Nope, that's what it says... However, on another site it says:

the 2007 Silverado offers many segment-best capabilities, including 18,500-pound gross combined vehicle weight rating for vehicles with a gas V8 and a 13,000-pound conventional trailer weight rating enabled by a larger-capacity trailer hitch platform. Maximum towing capacity is 16,700 pounds, when equipped with a fifth-wheel hitch.

Guess I better get my old unit back.

Nah, it's really fun towing a lighter unit that is aerodynamic, and still has 95% of the room and features we need. Plus only 2 slides to go wrong. I always winced when that big heavy kitchen slide went groaning out.

Thanks for the correction, but I don't know what happened to the Trailer life guide, it is clearly a bit off, far as I can tell.

These rating are so complex that I can't imagine how the authorities could figure it out anyway...
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:03 PM   #14
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I copied and pated direct from the manufactures owners manual on my truck model Laramie:straight out of the owners manual for a two wheel drive Towing: 15,450 lbs (7008 kg) - max Payload: 2,580 lbs (1170 kg) - max...
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:12 PM   #15
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The 34, 000lbs was a one time thing that I dont want to repeat. I was just saying it can be done but everyone has to live with their own decisions and most people know the numbers before they ask, at least from my experience, and just want confirmation of what they already believe.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:10 PM   #16
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I'll be danged ll

For my 2007 Chevy 2500HD ext cab std bed duramax the REAL numbers from the owners manual and side plate are:

Drummmm roll

Total payload capacity 2618 lbs
15,400 max tow weight
22,000 GCWR

SO in my case. I can tow it but probably not manage the payload weight.

200 lbs superglide
400 lbs passengers
2000 lbs hitch weight
Plus other stuff like fuel


Av8orLou Nope, garbonz, not over the max towing on my truck. It is diesel max towing of a fifth wheel is 15,500 lbs. Checked and double checked. The 12000 lbs is for a bumper pull trailer.

U are right on the capacity but maybe not payload. But who care. Just go and have fun.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:21 PM   #17
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Thanks all for your comments and information. The Dodge Ram 2500 is my first 3/4 ton and my first diesel. I purchased it with the intention of upgrading from my TT to a fiver and the more I looked at the fivers we would like to purchase the more confusing the issues have become. As I have stated before on other post, even the manufacture information on weights and capabilities vary depending on the material. The owners manual is different from the online Dodge Ram site and the brochure have different information. Then there are the second and third parties ie trailer life and other magazines. I will try to stay within the manufactures recommendations and if something goes wrong, they have the deepest pockets....LOL
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Thanks all for your comments and information. The Dodge Ram 2500 is my first 3/4 ton and my first diesel. I purchased it with the intention of upgrading from my TT to a fiver and the more I looked at the fivers we would like to purchase the more confusing the issues have become. As I have stated before on other post, even the manufacture information on weights and capabilities vary depending on the material. The owners manual is different from the online Dodge Ram site and the brochure have different information. Then there are the second and third parties ie trailer life and other magazines. I will try to stay within the manufactures recommendations and if something goes wrong, they have the deepest pockets....LOL
When I figured everything for my research - I went off of two things:
- the actual payload sticker for MY truck (as I showed above)
- the maximum (aka GVWR) of the trailer

I figured that I would never load the trailer to max, but knowing I had the safety margin comforted me. There's no question when you look at the gross weights for the trailers themselves. For me, I ignore the dry weights and the advertisements for how much it weighs.

Again, just more of my two cents.
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I think that may be 4 cents. But who's counting. Whoops that's right, we are.
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Word to wise: weight the dang thing to be sure, don't count on the sales rep (probably don't really know) & from FR the gross weight changed in the factory literature with no change to the chassis or suspension go figger that one out. If you stay with the TV tow specs and are within GCGW you should be fine, have ample power for giddy up & enough brakes to stop her when its time whoa boy!

For me it's a MorRyde IS w/ Kodiak Disc Brakes = more carry capacity w/ about 44 percent reduction is stopping distance at full GW. Better suspension, better ride, longer life for the trailer cause those roads are not getting better with their age!

Travel safe & enjoy the ride!
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