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11-17-2016, 12:37 PM
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Considering upgrading to 8k axles and 17.5 in tires advice
I own a 2017 Cedar Creek 38 el. Considering the above change and disc brakes as well. Would appreciate any advice.
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11-17-2016, 01:17 PM
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I have a 38EL also. Curious if you're having problems with your current 7K/16" setup?
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11-17-2016, 01:49 PM
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I have had no problems. I am concerned because the only 16 inch ST tires I've been able to locate are Chinese. I also noticed that then newest floor plan for the champagne edition was released with 17 1/2 inch tires on 8K axles. I am wondering if this upgrade would give me an extra margin of safety. Right now I am just trying to gather data.
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11-17-2016, 01:52 PM
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Thank you.
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11-17-2016, 01:57 PM
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If I had the money I would do it in a heart beat.
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11-17-2016, 02:00 PM
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Here are some tire options that are not Chinese.
Goodyear G614 LT235/85R16 LRG (rated to 3750lbs) Weight 57.5
Bridgestone Duravis R250 LT235/85R16 LRE(rated to 3042lbs) Weight 60
BFG Commercial TA LT235/85R16 LRE(rated to 3042lbs) Weight 44.44
Uniroyal Laredo HD/H LT235/85R16 LRE(rated to 3042lbs) Weight 44.44
Maxxis ST235/80R16 LRE 3420 lb rating at 80 lbs of air weights 43.43
Firestone Transforce HT
Cooper SRM II
Bridgestone LT 245/75R16 LRE
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11-17-2016, 03:22 PM
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I have a 32RL Cedar Creek with 7,000lb axles and Goodyear G614 tires
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11-17-2016, 03:38 PM
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Considering upgrading to 8k axles and 17.5 in tires advice
Quote:
Originally Posted by palmetto rogue
Here are some tire options that are not Chinese.
Goodyear G614 LT235/85R16 LRG (rated to 3750lbs) Weight 57.5
Bridgestone Duravis R250 LT235/85R16 LRE(rated to 3042lbs) Weight 60
BFG Commercial TA LT235/85R16 LRE(rated to 3042lbs) Weight 44.44
Uniroyal Laredo HD/H LT235/85R16 LRE(rated to 3042lbs) Weight 44.44
Maxxis ST235/80R16 LRE 3420 lb rating at 80 lbs of air weights 43.43
Firestone Transforce HT
Cooper SRM II
Bridgestone LT 245/75R16 LRE
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Only the first of those fully supports a 7,000 lbs. axle weight ratings. I personally want more rubber than axle rating.
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Originally Posted by Brady
I own a 2017 Cedar Creek 38 el. Considering the above change and disc brakes as well. Would appreciate any advice.
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If you're looking at this major of a change, look at:
Mor/ryde Independent Suspension
Disc brakes (hydraulic over electric)
17.5" rims and commercial trailer tires
If I planned to keep this rig long term, I'd go with the Mor/ryde in a heartbeat. Since I'm still not positive, I only opted for the 17.5" tires:
http://learntorv.com/major-tire-whee...er-overloaded/
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11-17-2016, 07:15 PM
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Thanks for all of the information. It's exactly the sort of data I need to make a decision. I posted here before I talked to my dealer. The experiences of this site's members is more important to me than information from a salesperson.
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11-18-2016, 07:47 AM
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If you're looking at going through all of the time and expense you might consider the MorRyde IS also, here's a link;
Independent Suspension System - MORryde Products
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11-18-2016, 08:33 AM
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I am going to get the MorRyde IS with Disc brakes soon, they give a discount for getting it installed during the winter months, it takes two days for the install. around $5500 for 7K and $6200 for 8K
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40 Gal TransferFlow fuel tank/ TST 507
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11-18-2016, 08:46 AM
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Contact gary.wheeler@morryde.com for info and price
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2015 RAM 3500 DRW 6.7 Cummins 3.42/ Garmin 760RV
40 Gal TransferFlow fuel tank/ TST 507
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11-18-2016, 11:10 AM
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W5Cl where will you having your work done please? From the feedback, MorRyde is definitely what I need to be looking at.
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11-18-2016, 01:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brady
W5Cl where will you having your work done please? From the feedback, MorRyde is definitely what I need to be looking at.
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You get Mor Ryde directly from Mor Ryde. I don't think there are any other places that can install their IS system.
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2016 Cedar Creek 36CK
B&W Patriot 18K, Trail-Aire pinbox,
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11-18-2016, 02:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brady
W5Cl where will you having your work done please? From the feedback, MorRyde is definitely what I need to be looking at.
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The MorRyde factory is in Goshen, IN. and their service center is located at the factory. They have 2 bays where they install the IS suspension. When I had my IS installed, they even let me stay in the camper overnight. The whole crew really know what they are doing and are very friendly and professional. I had the IS, disc brakes, 17.5 rims and tires, and a new pin box installed in less than 2 days.
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11-18-2016, 03:31 PM
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MORRyde factory is the only place to get it,
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2005 Cedar Creek 30RLBS/TrailAir Hitch/ MORryde 7K IS/Disc Brakes/ PI PT-50 EMS/ RV Flex Armor Roof
2015 RAM 3500 DRW 6.7 Cummins 3.42/ Garmin 760RV
40 Gal TransferFlow fuel tank/ TST 507
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11-18-2016, 05:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by W5CI
MORRyde factory is the only place to get it,
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According to their website, MORryde has 2 other "certified installers" of the IS system. One in Colton, CA and the other in Grants Pass, OR.
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2017 Cedar Creek 36CKTS
MORryde independent suspension with disc brakes
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11-19-2016, 11:57 AM
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Axle Upgrade
During sixty years of driving I have never seen a fifth wheel on the side of the road with a broken axle. Has anyone seen this? Flat tires yes, many.
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2017 Cedar Creek 38EL Champagne
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11-19-2016, 12:00 PM
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Thanks again for all of the replies. I have contacted Mr. Wheeler at MorRyde and he has been very helpful. Not sure what I am going to do yet but have lots more information to work with.
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11-20-2016, 12:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brady
I own a 2017 Cedar Creek 38 el. Considering the above change and disc brakes as well. Would appreciate any advice.
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Brady, we have a 2013 36CKTS which came equipped with Dexter 7K axles and drum brakes. Having owned other 5ers with Lippert chassis I was very uncomfortable with that setup, so first off we upgraded to Morryde's Independent suspension, 17.5 H rated tires and Kodiak disc brakes. We have put a lot of miles on our RV since the installation and have done so without issues and peace of mind knowing that the IS/disc brake combo installation overcame any weak points in Lippert's chassis suspension. All said & done, we are thrilled with that modification, only wish that Craig at Cedar Creek would allow the customer (who BTW pays good money for the FR/CC product) to upfit the chassis before it starts the CC manufacturing process, thus allowing this type of mod to become a part of the finished product instead of an "aftermarket" modification. Hope this helps.
Mikey
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