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02-05-2016, 04:47 PM
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I am really glad to hear that folks not only buy a particular model for looks but also for the viewing of the TV. We went back and forth between the silverback 29RE, IK and 33IK. It basically boiled down to the 29RE we can move the recliners and watch TV directly in front. Purchased a movable island and we are happier than pigs in mud!
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2016 CC Silverback 29RE
2012 GMC 2500HD 4x4
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02-05-2016, 05:36 PM
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Location: Upstate New York
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BandJCarm,
Regarding cargo capacity, the 36CKTS does have 1000 lbs less than the 34RL, BUT it has 3737 lbs which is way more than many competitive trailers. So is 3737 lbs a problem?
I have a 32' travel trailer now and carry what I want in the trailer and the "stuff" weighs about 1200 lbs with empty tanks. I am ordering a 36CKTS next week. I figure I will carry more in it, mostly moving things from the truck bed to the basement storage.
The real world empty weight of the trailer including options, I figure, will be about 400-500 lbs more than the brochure weight.
All factors figured, I think the 36CKTS has more that enough cargo capacity.
I debated length for long time. 34RL is ~37', 36CKTS is ~40'. 3 more feet. I figure that most campgrounds that will be a problem for 40', will still be a problem for 37'.
I like the extra storage space in the kitchen area, recliners facing the TV, and the extra room to walk next to a king size bed in the 36CKTS. No more side shuffle next to the bed .
Everything in RVs is a compromise. I have read about "3 foot itis". The desire for a RV that is 3 foot longer than the current one. I hope I buy the right one the first time. It is expensive to buy a second time to fix what is not liked about the current one.
Good luck in your choice.
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2023 Ram 3500 Cummins Aisin Dually, Auto Flex Air Ride Rear Suspension, B&W RVK3600 hitch
2022 Grand Design Reflection 303RLS
2024 Winnebago Minnie 2327TB B&W Continuum Hitch
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02-05-2016, 06:06 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Between Pickles Gap and Toad Suck, AR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by racer4
BandJCarm,
Regarding cargo capacity, the 36CKTS does have 1000 lbs less than the 34RL, BUT it has 3737 lbs which is way more than many competitive trailers. So is 3737 lbs a problem?
I have a 32' travel trailer now and carry what I want in the trailer and the "stuff" weighs about 1200 lbs with empty tanks. I am ordering a 36CKTS next week. I figure I will carry more in it, mostly moving things from the truck bed to the basement storage.
The real world empty weight of the trailer including options, I figure, will be about 400-500 lbs more than the brochure weight.
All factors figured, I think the 36CKTS has more that enough cargo capacity.
I debated length for long time. 34RL is ~37', 36CKTS is ~40'. 3 more feet. I figure that most campgrounds that will be a problem for 40', will still be a problem for 37'.
I like the extra storage space in the kitchen area, recliners facing the TV, and the extra room to walk next to a king size bed in the 36CKTS. No more side shuffle next to the bed .
Everything in RVs is a compromise. I have read about "3 foot itis". The desire for a RV that is 3 foot longer than the current one. I hope I buy the right one the first time. It is expensive to buy a second time to fix what is not liked about the current one.
Good luck in your choice.
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Very good info. I appreciate this.
It's not JUST backing into a camping space. It's pulling it down the road, pulling into get diesel fuel. Parking it at home. Every inch is precious.
But yeah..........I guess 3K+ cargo is enough............I just have to convince my wife that we can't move the entire house into the trailer.
This is all one tough decision.........I know that.
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02-05-2016, 06:32 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Upstate New York
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BandJCarm,
This is off topic and I hesitate to bring it up, but when you said ...
"It's not JUST backing into a camping space. It's pulling it down the road, pulling into get diesel fuel. Parking it at home. Every inch is precious."
I wondered what your tow vehicle is. I don't see if your truck is a 1500, 2500, 3500, etc. Have you evaluated if your truck is suitable to step up to the hitch weight of the FWs we are talking about? Or are you buying a different truck?
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2023 Ram 3500 Cummins Aisin Dually, Auto Flex Air Ride Rear Suspension, B&W RVK3600 hitch
2022 Grand Design Reflection 303RLS
2024 Winnebago Minnie 2327TB B&W Continuum Hitch
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02-05-2016, 08:05 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Between Pickles Gap and Toad Suck, AR
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I have 2015 Chevy 2500 Diesel Duramax.
If it won't pull any of these I'm looking at, I'd be flabbergasted.
My avatar pic I think (?) is my previous truck, the Chevy 1500. Wife drives it around town now.
I appreciate the question.........but surely I'm ok................I HOPE!!!!
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02-05-2016, 11:39 PM
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Location: Upstate New York
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I was confused because your Public Profile > About Me > says a Chevy with a 5.3L engine. That must be your previous truck. I thought truck in the picture looked like a 1500.
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2023 Ram 3500 Cummins Aisin Dually, Auto Flex Air Ride Rear Suspension, B&W RVK3600 hitch
2022 Grand Design Reflection 303RLS
2024 Winnebago Minnie 2327TB B&W Continuum Hitch
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02-06-2016, 08:47 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Between Pickles Gap and Toad Suck, AR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by racer4
I was confused because your Public Profile > About Me > says a Chevy with a 5.3L engine. That must be your previous truck. I thought truck in the picture looked like a 1500.
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Yes. My bad. I just haven't changed it. I just don't have any pictures of the camper and new truck hooked up. Sorry! I'll go fix the Profile.
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02-06-2016, 09:46 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Oswego il
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandJCarm
I have 2015 Chevy 2500 Diesel Duramax.
If it won't pull any of these I'm looking at, I'd be flabbergasted.
My avatar pic I think (?) is my previous truck, the Chevy 1500. Wife drives it around town now.
I appreciate the question.........but surely I'm ok................I HOPE!!!!
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You will be very very close. I am pulling with a 2008, 2500 Ram 6.7L Cummins and I am very close to my numbers. I also have switched out the factory tires and rims to a higher load capacity rating tire/rim combination. When I am pulling the trailer all of my holding tanks are empty also.
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2016 34RL CC; 2008 Ram Mega Cab 2500HD, 6.7L, 68RFE 6 speed, 4X4, Smarty S67, TDR 145K+miles
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02-06-2016, 10:03 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Between Pickles Gap and Toad Suck, AR
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The "Numbers" get over my head fast. I've been down this discussion before, and I am not sure I am smart enough to figure it out.
Truck says it'll pull 24,500 lbs. This thing is less than 20,000 loaded.
Past that, I get lost.........I will just have to admit.
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02-11-2016, 05:30 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: anywhere we want
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Check what your gvwr is with king pin.im replacing my 2500 with a 3500 for a 33ik. Because of the #'s
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02-12-2016, 01:27 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Alaska
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We have a 2014 34RLSA.
When we get to our camping destination we swap the recliners and sofa.
Sofa in the rear and recliners across from the TV.
Swapping the furniture is a piece of cake... takes less the 5 minutes.
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02-12-2016, 07:51 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Between Pickles Gap and Toad Suck, AR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sidney
We have a 2014 34RLSA.
When we get to our camping destination we swap the recliners and sofa.
Sofa in the rear and recliners across from the TV.
Swapping the furniture is a piece of cake... takes less the 5 minutes.
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Sidney,
So, does the couch fit well into the end cap where the recliners are??? I think it's 74" long, is that right? How well does it fit?
Have you used the couch as a bed in that position?
Your post makes me "slap my head". The simplest answer, and I never considered it. Duh!!!
34RL seems about same layout as 36CKTS but shorter, and lighter....a good thing to me! The big diff is the couch/recliner layout, which is why I asked how folks did it.
PM Me if needed. Thanks for the reply!
Bill
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02-12-2016, 03:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Alaska
Posts: 239
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandJCarm
Sidney,
So, does the couch fit well into the end cap where the recliners are??? I think it's 74" long, is that right? How well does it fit?
Have you used the couch as a bed in that position?
Your post makes me "slap my head". The simplest answer, and I never considered it. Duh!!!
34RL seems about same layout as 36CKTS but shorter, and lighter....a good thing to me! The big diff is the couch/recliner layout, which is why I asked how folks did it.
PM Me if needed. Thanks for the reply!
Bill
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Hey Bill,
The couch fits fine... plenty of room in the back cap position. We haven't used the couch as a bed but there is room enough if needed.
Also, we ordered our 34RLSA with no carpet in the living room (there is carpet in the slides and the back cap area). We put felt pads on feet of the furniture... making it even easier to move around.
Hope this helps.
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02-12-2016, 05:26 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Between Pickles Gap and Toad Suck, AR
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Exactly what I needed to know.
Thanks!!!!
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