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Old 07-15-2015, 11:30 AM   #1
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I need to know from someone that has a diesel truck, do you ever buy DEF fluid at truck stops, from a nozzle? I buy it in 2 1/2 gal containers but I live close to a truck stop and I was just wondering. Out of a nozzle is cheaper


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Out of nozzle is cheaper but I find it to be more of a hassle. My credit card will not work at the pump... so I have to take it in, go out and pump, and go back in to complete the sale. My truck seems to be pretty frugal with DEF unless I'm pulling. The 2.5 gallon jugs are not that much more expensive, and I use one every 3 - 5 months... low hassle... $13- or so. It would be nice if some of the auto-diesel stations would put DEF dispensing pumps adjacent to their diesel pumps. It's here to stay, so it makes sense.
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I've been wondering g the same thing recently. Che y will top it off for the next 24,000 miles but I was thinking of just picking up a 2.5 gallon can for backup next time we hit a truck stop while out towing. I am only at 4000 miles so I am still curious how far I'll get on the 5 GallonS of def.

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Good question and responses. DEF is a lot cheaper at the pump such as at Flying J Pilot centers. Simply(Spock123) get an RV PLUS charge card for any Pilot travel center(must be a member of the Good Sam club) and you will get an appreciable discount of around 6 cents less than the posted price at the pump. Just used it for the first time and was no hassle...stick the card in once, as per usual, choose your delivery (diesel or DEF), and
fill 'er up. Receipt ejects there and you don't go inside unless you want too. NOTE: the
DEF nozzle is usually under a separate, well marked "box" on the left side of the pump so that you don't mistakenly confuse the nozzles into the wrong tank (horrors!) which nozzle-size wise is still pretty hard to do...but I'm sure somebody could prove me wrong on this one...

The only hassle I have on my 2011 is that the DEF is on the opposite side of the diesel fill and I have to go in against the flow to fill that up. Luckily my 8-gal. tank will last
for around 7-8,000 miles before I have to fill again as per the warning message on my
instr. panel. I know that on the newer Solera's the tank is much smaller (3.5 gal?) and
fillable via the engine side. I like the bigger 8-gal idea, actually. Yea, I also carry the
2.5 gallon backup DEF (cheapest at Walmart btw...) just in case until I get into the fill
"routine" grove...have only had her out a few times and most recently on a 1200 mile
trip to the East coast. -PB

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OK please allow me to throw a fly into the ointment...


My Chevy truck service manager (I'm still under warranty) says NEVER use the DEF from the truck stop nozzle!! He says they have had several cases where that was done and it ruined the truck engine, costing many dollars to repair. So I follow his advice and buy it in the 2 1/2 gallon container, either from the dealer (most expensive) or a truck stop or Wally World. You just need to check the container to be sure you are getting the right spec number. I seen a few labels that had some strange spec numbers on them. Don't recall the spec but it can be found in the truck diesel manual. I did not have the time to discuss with him the exact damage that was done in the cases he spoke of. I will do that the next time I see him. He is an experienced diesel guy.


Maybe I'm too cautious, but better safe than sorry. Also, I have the same problem with the refill spout being on the opposite side from the diesel intakes for both my OEM tank and my aux tank. Too much trouble to pull out and circle around to get in the slot backward. Since I refuel mostly at truck stops at the truck pumps, that maneuver would be pretty difficult as you would be going against the trucker flow. Most of those pumps are pretty busy and it might cause some consternation from the OTR drivers.
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I wouldn't have any problems filling up my DEF at a truck stop. As for related engine trouble, I might be missing something but to my knowledge, DEF is injected into the exhaust, not the engine so I can't see how that would damage anything unless you put DEF in your diesel tank.

Also, DEF is DEF. The ISO specs are the same for all versions/labeling that you would find out there. Diesel quality is another story...
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Old 07-15-2015, 03:30 PM   #7
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Good question and responses. DEF is a lot cheaper at the pump such as at Flying J Pilot centers. Simply(Spock123) get an RV PLUS charge card for any Pilot travel center(must be a member of the Good Sam club) and you will get an appreciable discount of around 6 cents less than the posted price at the pump. Just used it for the first time and was no hassle...stick the card in once, as per usual, choose your delivery (diesel or DEF), and
fill 'er up. Receipt ejects there and you don't go inside unless you want too. NOTE: the
DEF nozzle is usually under a separate, well marked "box" on the left side of the pump so that you don't mistakenly confuse the nozzles into the wrong tank (horrors!) which nozzle-size wise is still pretty hard to do...but I'm sure somebody could prove me wrong on this one...

The only hassle I have on my 2011 is that the DEF is on the opposite side of the diesel fill and I have to go in against the flow to fill that up. Luckily my 8-gal. tank will last
for around 7-8,000 miles before I have to fill again as per the warning message on my
instr. panel. I know that on the newer Solera's the tank is much smaller (3.5 gal?) and
fillable via the engine side. I like the bigger 8-gal idea, actually. Yea, I also carry the
2.5 gallon backup DEF (cheapest at Walmart btw...) just in case until I get into the fill
"routine" grove...have only had her out a few times and most recently on a 1200 mile
trip to the East coast. -PB

PS: Customer Srvc # for the RV Plus card is 1-855-478-7587 in case you are
so motivated? And NO(!)...I DO NOT work for G.S. or Pilot!!

Think your truck is bad, a Silverado fill is under the hood and you have to hold the 2 1/2 container up, Chevy makes it hard. I have a plus card but I doubt if I'll ever use it, my card gets five percent off. But thanks for the tip


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OK please allow me to throw a fly into the ointment...


My Chevy truck service manager (I'm still under warranty) says NEVER use the DEF from the truck stop nozzle!! He says they have had several cases where that was done and it ruined the truck engine, costing many dollars to repair. So I follow his advice and buy it in the 2 1/2 gallon container, either from the dealer (most expensive) or a truck stop or Wally World. You just need to check the container to be sure you are getting the right spec number. I seen a few labels that had some strange spec numbers on them. Don't recall the spec but it can be found in the truck diesel manual. I did not have the time to discuss with him the exact damage that was done in the cases he spoke of. I will do that the next time I see him. He is an experienced diesel guy.


Maybe I'm too cautious, but better safe than sorry. Also, I have the same problem with the refill spout being on the opposite side from the diesel intakes for both my OEM tank and my aux tank. Too much trouble to pull out and circle around to get in the slot backward. Since I refuel mostly at truck stops at the truck pumps, that maneuver would be pretty difficult as you would be going against the trucker flow. Most of those pumps are pretty busy and it might cause some consternation from the OTR drivers.
Gotta comment here, if commercial DEF was that poor- America's truck fleet would line the highways coast to coast! But they don't. DEF fluid is simply mixture of 2/3 water and the balance of Urea a compound made from animal urine. It acts a catalyst when diesel fuel is injected with DEF into a burning chamber to reduce NOX and other contaminates. It's big drawback is it has a shelf life marked on the box. Some get fluid every few months, truck stops sell it every day, which is fresher?
Just food for thought......
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I wouldn't have any problems filling up my DEF at a truck stop. As for related engine trouble, I might be missing something but to my knowledge, DEF is injected into the exhaust, not the engine so I can't see how that would damage anything unless you put DEF in your diesel tank.

Also, DEF is DEF. The ISO specs are the same for all versions/labeling that you would find out there. Diesel quality is another story...
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I have filled at a truck stop. Cheaper and convenient at least for a Ford. Get about 1,000 miles a gallon of DEF. I have also bought containers of DEF without spouts. A real pain and never again.
When towing the exhaust is usually hot enough that there's little need to regen but hot means Nox and that uses the DEF. Not towing is just the opposite and there is a need to regen but little use of DEF.
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