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Old 09-17-2016, 04:32 PM   #1
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F250 + CC Silverback 33ik

Hi All,

I'm new to this forum (heck, new to all forums). Anyway, I have a 2016 F250 6.7l Diesel crew cab with a 3.55 rear end and 6 3/4' box. The truck has the factory 5th wheel prep package. I'm looking at a CC Silverback 33ik. Does anyone have any experience with this combination?

At 14,067 GVWR I would be under the rated 15,100 rating for total weight and from what I can gather from the Ford web site the pin weight has to be between 15% and 25% of the total. For the 33ik this would be 2110 - 3516, CC says the hitch weight is 2067, a little under 15% but I don't see how that could be a problem. Amy I missing anything regarding the weights?

From what I have read I should be able to use a standard hitch with the 6 3/4' bed, any nay sayers here?

Any help / advice short of, "go by a one ton dually" would be appreciated.


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Old 09-17-2016, 04:43 PM   #2
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Hi and welcome, I have a 33IK and use a Chevrolet crew cab 6.6 box, I don't have a sliding hitch as the trailer has large cutouts. You are about to receive lots of different view on this and the weight guys will be on this also, all I can say is works great for me.

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Old 09-17-2016, 05:19 PM   #3
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33IK with 3/4T diesel

My signature shows our setup and we love it. I did the math and fully loaded we are very near the rear axle rating. We do not have any problem towing a really appreciate the diesel. We pulled our previous Wildcat with a 3/4T gasser and it was a strain at times. We got an average of 7.5 mpg with the gasser and now with a heavier Silverback we get an average of 11.5 mpg and really appreciate the added torque.
Happy camping with your new CC.

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Old 09-17-2016, 07:10 PM   #4
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Unless you're planning to fulltime ... the GVWR of the fiver is a rather mystical number. You'll find you'll probably never come close to it seasonal camping if you actually go and weight it ready for say the lake.
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Old 09-18-2016, 07:10 AM   #5
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Welcome to the forum, you will enjoy the Cedar Creek product.
A lot of us are towing fifth wheels with 3/4 ton at or above the payload rating of the truck. We have the same truck, few years older than yours, towing a silverback 33RL, with a Moryde pin box, which is very similar in weights, I know I'm at or about 12,000# when fully loaded for a two week trip. I have no worries towing with the truck, 11.7 avg.mpg
The pin weight loaded will put you over payload rating if you have the crew cab, i installed a set of Timbrens and removed the factory bump stops, a lot of guys use airbags, you'll want to install either. I also use a 16K slider hitch, not auto slider, in my 6.5 ft bed, just in case, I don't want to get into a situation I need it and don't have it, uneven ground, sharp radius. Where I store mine, grounds uneven getting in there and the truck is about 60 degree turned.
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Old 09-18-2016, 07:29 AM   #6
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We have your the same setup you mentioned. The only thing that I have done is to add a set of Firestone Airbags that allow me to level out the load. Have not had any trouble with towing it in the mountains (diesel is great). As to the weights, you will be close or slightly over when fully loaded. But, doing some research you will find that the numbers on the door are just that, numbers. The axle in the F250 is the same part numbers as in the F350, but the GAWR on the door of the F350 is much higher than the F250. Ours tows GREAT.

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Old 09-18-2016, 04:58 PM   #7
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You be good to go. My 33rl tows like a dream at 62 to 65 mph with plenty of ommphhh for a quick pass and back to sanity😄 Have a manual slider due to 2012 Keystone normal cap at the time. Never need the slide with the 2015 33rl.
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My TV is a 2008 Dodge with 6.7 Cummins. I did add helper springs on the TV to ensure LEVEL at pin box.
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Old 09-20-2016, 02:38 PM   #8
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Look at Roadmaster spring assist. I put them on my 3/4 works great and no maintenance.
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Old 09-25-2016, 08:56 PM   #9
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I have a 2013 f250, same engine and box length. I also have the 33ik and had no problems. Pulled it 230 miles without issue besides really bad gas mileage.
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Old 09-25-2016, 09:21 PM   #10
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I have a 2015 F250 diesel with the 33IK. I know I am about 1K over GVWR. I added Firestone Airbags.

I have pulled my 5ver over 7000 miles in the past year. Some of the towing was in the Smokey Mountains (love the engine brake).

Get about 11mpg.
Truck pulls like a dream. In flat to hilly terrain put on cruise control and set for 60-63mph and use 6th gear.

Always use tow/haul mode because of the automatic engine brake assist when stopping (never know when a fool jumps in front of you).

Use a Reese 16K hitch with a manual slide (looking at a Sidewinder, you might want to also). Dealer wanted to put in a Pullrite auto slider but it weighs over 300#. The Reese is about 150#.

If you don't have a truck, get the F350 SRW. It is about the same price as a F250 but gives your more payload. Basically F250 and F350 are exactly the same ( same dimensions +/-, same engine, same brakes, same curb weight) but the F350 has one more helper spring that comes into play with a heavy load which eliminates the sag. I eliminated the sag with the airbags.

I love pulling our 33IK with the F250. If someone starts talking white knuckles with their F250 and a 33IK then they may have had other issues. I'll be heading to the Rockies with no worries.

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