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02-15-2013, 08:42 PM
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For Cedar Creek owners
We are going to buy a 5er ASAP - after our house sells. We've been to Lazydays, were taken through a few by a salesman. I asked if the roofs were TPO or rubber. He assured us they were TPO. However, in looking at the newest brochure, it states they have a rubber membrane! So, please enlighten me. Who's correct? We don't trust salesman. Secondly, if you are the owner of a Cedar Creek, and it does have a rubber membrane, is they as much maint. as I've been told?
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02-16-2013, 09:45 AM
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We took the factory tour and saw how the roof was built. After the frame is built and the insulation and wiring is installed, a sheet of a plastic material, presumably TPO, is pulled over the entire roof and folded over the sides. Made the roof look very water-tight. In this case, I think the sales dude is right.
Mike
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02-16-2013, 10:08 AM
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Would you happen to know if the Silverback roof is the same as the Cedar Creek, it is built by Cedar Creek so I would assume it is the same, but maybe because you took the tour you may know for sure.
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02-16-2013, 10:47 AM
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Here's a link to a good description of EDPM and TPO roof membranes. From what I've read the two roofing materials are equal.
Where the Rubber Meets the Roof | RV PRO
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02-16-2013, 10:49 PM
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I believe they build all the roofs the same way on the Silverbacks.
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02-17-2013, 10:56 PM
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Me believe salesman speak sales talk about roof, whole bunch malarkey about TPO. I talked with Kevin Caudill @ FR who stated EDPM Rubber is only type offered by them.
TPO is a better product in my book and will be the product used when I have reason to make the change. It is about twice the weight of EDPM Rubber though.
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02-18-2013, 09:06 AM
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Mikey, according to Dave_Monica's well written article, TPO is HALF the weight of EPDM.
“There are some weight differences,” he says. “TPO is about half the weight of the EPDM. You can save about one pound-per-lineal-foot, which translates into gas savings. You might not see it up front, but you will on down the road.”
To me, it's a toss up. I wouldn't end up doing that job myself anyways. If and when the Beast needs a new roof, it'll be time to send it down the road.
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02-18-2013, 10:43 AM
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I knew it was some sort of sheet plastic-like material. Sorry I didn't know which it was. Either way, it is a single piece of 'stuff' with no seams. I would think it would be water tight.
Mike
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02-18-2013, 11:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N9ID
I knew it was some sort of sheet plastic-like material. Sorry I didn't know which it was. Either way, it is a single piece of 'stuff' with no seams. I would think it would be water tight.
Mike
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But.....water tight until they cut holes for vents, air conditioners, etc? Seems to me thats where any leaks are going to be.
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02-18-2013, 11:42 AM
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Agreed.
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02-18-2013, 03:01 PM
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The maint. is about the same on all of them. (just wash occasionaly). By the way N9NNN is parked behind me.
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03-10-2013, 09:16 AM
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TV to sound system
Does anyone how to get the TV to sound system to work? I have been unable to get mine working.
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03-11-2013, 06:33 PM
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LESHaddix - You might get more answers by creating a new topic for this... But what sound system and TV do you have ?
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03-11-2013, 07:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 38FLCamper
LESHaddix - You might get more answers by creating a new topic for this... But what sound system and TV do you have ?
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Thanks, I have Jensen systems. I found that if I turn off the TV spk in tv setup, then the sound would come out the center spk of the sound system. But not the other spk's. So I think it sounds better coming out of the TV spk
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03-11-2013, 07:24 PM
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We have a Vizio with the same issue - thinking I may replace the system in the future - not overly happy with the sound quality from the soundbar in our 38FL.
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