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Old 07-30-2015, 08:54 AM   #21
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Old 07-30-2015, 09:07 AM   #22
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Is it only Cedar Creek TT that have the 4-6 volt set up required? I have a Cardinal 3800FL that has 2 12 volt batteries and my fridge works well while traveling with the inverter on.
Just wondering the reason.
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Old 07-30-2015, 09:58 AM   #23
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So I understand, is the "house" battery and the "fridge" battery physically located in the same compartment?

Are they used as "one big bank" or is there a dedicated battery for the inverter and one for the "house"?

Is there an advantage for keeping them separate (electrically) for battery management purposes?
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Old 07-30-2015, 11:19 AM   #24
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Well if ttanous wiring diagram is correct as shown above you only have one large battery. In the above diagram you have 4 6v golf cart type batteries. two of the batteries are wired in series so that they produce 12 volts then the two sets of 12v batteries are wired in parallel to increase the AH capacity. I have seen other CC posting on this site that have 3 12V batteries installed two are paralleled to increase AH capacity for house use and the third battery is only used for the frig. I installed a second battery string in my unit and can switch between them. I did this because if the inverter runs down the battery you cannot run the hydraulics to the jacks up or down or the rooms in or out. So this is sort of a backup arrangement.
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I had a phone conversation with a Forest River service manager this week about this issue pertaining to my Silverback 29RE. His comment was that the Cedar Creek units are designed for 4 six volt batteries in a series/parallel arrangement to provide 12 volts, and the battery compartment is sized accordingly.
The Silverback units are designed for 2 or 3 twelve volt batteries in parallel.
Remember that the inverters do not have a 12 volt charger built in. They are designed for pass through operation when shore power is connected, and to provide 120 vac when shore power is disconnected.

In both the CC units and the Silverback, all of the 12 volt DC systems are tied together at the batteries.

My dealer installed them incorrectly, and I could measure that the inverter battery was slowly discharging even with shorepower connected while the main battery was holding at 13.6 volts DC.

I went ahead and purchased another battery,....same brand...same size as the originals, and tied all three batteries in parallel. Everything in my coach is now working as it was designed and the batteries are holding at 13.6.

It took awhile for me to reach a good understanding of how it was designed, but once I understood and corrected the wiring, everything is good.

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Old 07-31-2015, 09:49 AM   #26
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I was reading another post on the Wildcat forum and it made remember something that I forgot. When you think your batteries are not holding a charge, after you make sure they are hooked up right then you charge them. Then you disconnect the batteries from each other and test each battery, you may have one bad battery. Just because they are new does not mean anything, Sams club was having a sale on 6 volt Energizer battery's, when I got home and charged them up I found a bad one. When I took the battery back it seems there were a lot of bad batteries, there was a big stack. If one battery is bad in a bank of four then all will be bad until you replace the bad one. The only way to find out is check each individual battery, not hooked to each other, then if you like you can check each cell. That's why when your battery bank is getting old you just don't replace one battery you replace all four


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Old 08-01-2015, 02:28 PM   #27
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Great info... Here is my question, once powered up by shore power, inverter automatically goes off right?? Then once unplugged, the inverter will automatically come on right?? My dealer told me I should never have to touch the inverter...just making sure this is correct. Btw I have a 2016 silverback 29re and at delivery the inverter failed so the dealer installed a new one on the spot! So factory inverters may be suspect???
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Mine has to be turned off and on manually.
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Old 08-01-2015, 04:03 PM   #29
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I never touch my inverter


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Old 08-01-2015, 09:59 PM   #30
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Got an email from the MFR.

While it will not charge the backup batteries; it will "pass through" shore power to the fridge. If Power fails it will automatically switch to inverter power. Leave the inverter on all the time.
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