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Old 07-31-2012, 08:48 PM   #21
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A take away from that article is worth repeating here:

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Usually (but not always), there are events that lead up to this type of malfunction. If your pin box is completely surrounded by body panels and you can't see any framing, keep an eye on tell-tale events that may show up.

1) Side moldings coming loose (as in the topic starter's picture)
2) Pin box moving up and down separate from the body as the vehicle is being towed
3) Wrinkling of the side/front aluminum (for coaches that are constructed of that material)
4) Wrinkling of the plastic or pulling away of the fibreglas underside of the overhang
5) Screws loosening or falling out of the underside panel(s) of the overhang
6) A hump in the floor above the pin box
7) Cabinets and/or panelling in the front interior area coming loose or showing signs of upward pressure (bowing)

As many coaches have enclosed front ends today where the only thing visible is the pin box, daily inspections are about the only way to get a jump on frame distress.
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:57 PM   #22
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Sure is. The kit contains two spray cans, one the penetrant the other the developer (powder). You can find it online at most pilot shops like Falcon Crest - Aviation Supply
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:06 AM   #23
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I just received a message from tinyphil from our forum that had similiar issues with his 5th wheel frame out of warranty and said he was able to get it fixed using his insurance company and only had to pay the deductable. He found a rv repair shop who also had a good welding shop and it took care and reinforced the frame at a cost of almost $5,000. What kind of insurance coverage do you have?

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Had the frame repaired at an RV dealership in Farmington NM. They worked with a welding shop in the area and replaced the broken cross members and put gussets from the pin box to the cross members. Their comment was that it was a marginal design. The box frame cross member was too thin of metal to support the amount of stress that is seen on the 5th wheel hitch. Lippert and Forest River would not cover the cost of repairs, They said it was out of warranty and would have nothing to do with covering the cost of repairs. As luck would have it my insurance on the trailer covered the cost of repairs minus my deductable. At least I did not have to pay it out of pocket. The total cost of repairs was about $4800. I took the trailer on a trip to Alaska and back in 2011 and had no more problems. I glad that I had that problem before my trip.
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:00 PM   #24
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The HECK with what kind of insurance I have!
What insurance did TIM have! I want THAT.
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:26 PM   #25
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I bought a plug-n-play borescope/endoscope today ($27) so that I can inspect this thing after each trip. I will certainly use the date/time stamp function when I do find a problem (evidence vice keep sakes). I already have the dye penetrant kit waiting on the shelf too!

After researching this issue here plus CCRVOC, RVNet & FROG forums, it is clear that FR & LCI have a problem that will take some serious attention getting measures to wake them up. I'm working on it to be sure. LCI axles get retrofitted with MoreRyde IS system this winter & brake system will also see a retrofit. I can not sit by waiting for this chassis to grenade itself due to LCI & FR corner cutting.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Creek but have serious misgivings with the MFG & some of its supply chain (LCI).

Travel safe, watch it like a hawk, maintain it & always enjoy your journeys.
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:29 PM   #26
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I bought a plug-n-play borescope/endoscope today ($27) so that I can inspect this thing after each trip.................
You can also use it to perform Colonoscopies at the campgrounds and make a few buck on the side.
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You can also use it to perform Colonoscopies at the campgrounds and make a few buck on the side.
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where do you get one of these scopes
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where do you get one of these scopes
I got it on ebay. Just do a search for borescope/endoscope. I ordered the 10M but in retrospect I believe the 5M would be more than adequate.
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You can also use it to perform Colonoscopies at the campgrounds and make a few buck on the side.
Iggy, R U volunteering to be first? I could really make you a good deal being first.
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