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Old 01-14-2014, 09:39 PM   #1
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Level-Up Questions / Concerns

I've just about got our new Silverback ready to hit the road. I've been going through it fixing issues and adding things for the last week. If we were to have ordered this RV opposed to finding it on the lot, we would have opted NOT to have the Level-Up system, as it's just one more gadget to have problems with.
I've had to fix one leak in a fitting already, but that was easy. My issue now, is the popping sound coming from the left front jack. Go through the procedures, auto level and your set. Then shortly after, you hear the popping sound. It may happen every 30 seconds, it may be 10 minutes. I've sat inside to see if I could feel anything shift when it popped, but didn't feel anything. Out of curiosity, I measured the stroke on both front jacks, then measured again 4 hours later. The left front jack was 1/8" different, as in retracted. So, first, is this normal. Second, just how much "settling" is acceptable on these jacks? Last night I dug around on the internet searching for possible clues, and found a lot of results for a popping sound. Some say put wood under the jacks, and another interesting one was instructions from Lippert on syphoning 1/2 quart of fluid out of the tank, adding some other fluid, cycling, then repeating the process for a second 1/2 quart. I'm also thinking maybe solenoid?
I hope this is the only issue I have with them. I never had problems leveling the old way, and that was easy, so yes I'm' a bit frustrated I have that expensive of an option that might not work as well as I need it to. We will be moving into the thing full time next week and it may sit in one spot for 4 months. Sitting that long, I guess I'm scared of one jack slacking off and putting a slight twist in the frame.

Any ideas??
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Old 01-15-2014, 06:56 AM   #2
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It sounds like air bubbles. The fluid Lippert suggested is to help remove the air bubbles in the system.
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:23 AM   #3
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I agree with air in the system.
For as long as you plan on being in one place perhaps something like these would be a better option..

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Old 01-15-2014, 08:41 AM   #4
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If you are going to sit in one place for 4 mos. you are going to have to relevel now and then. You will loose pressure on the pistons LCI will even tell you that. Did you bleed the valves off? air in the line will cause that.
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Old 01-15-2014, 08:53 AM   #5
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If it's a Lippert system then it appears to be a common occurance. My GT does it occasionally (not so frequently now). The lippert system is self bleeding. I think as you exercise the system more the popping will cease or at least greately diminish over time. Has not caused us any issues.
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Mine also pops occasionally, but I also like you keep my RV inside a metal building, so we can hear it better than those owners who store outdoors. I haven't noticed the RV settling enough to change chassis level however.

If it continues popping after several more use cycles to remove air from system, I suspect that you have a solenoid valve leaking by.
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Old 01-15-2014, 11:43 AM   #7
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Just a side note. Each of the solenoid valves (slides and levellers) have an allen head screw on the end of the valve and that screw needs to be snugged COUNTER CLOCKWISE (not over torqued) for normal operation if you have a Lippert system. You might check them just to be sure. Don't know if the screw was mal adjusted would contribute to the issue you have.
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Old 01-15-2014, 12:46 PM   #8
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A popping noise is very common with the Level up system. Lippert is well of aware of this and has been trying to find a cure for a few years. From what I've read their latest fix is an additive you put into the hydraulic oil. If you contact Lippert customer service they should be able to point you in the right direction..
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Thank you all for the replies. Ford Idaho, funny you mention those. I just ordered the larger set that scope up to 30" an hour ago. For now, my plan is to level it the old way side to side using the pads I had for our previous RV's, level front to back with the front jacks, then let the rear 4 just barely tag the ground as stabilizers. Obviously running the system in manual mode. I will put the Camco stabilizer jacks just behind the front jacks on the frame. Worse comes to worse, the weight will be sitting on all 4 tires in the rear, and if for some reason the front legs decide to settle some, the jack stands will catch the load. All this of course, if we're going to be in one spot for a while as mentioned. Now if we were doing a shorter trip, I'd just use the level up as is probably.
I had checked the jack stroke early this morning, and again late this evening, and there was no change today, so I suppose that's good. From the first time I checked them yesterday until now, total drop was 3/16", and obviously no change on the bubbles with that amount.
I'm gonna double check those allen heads tomorrow just out of curiosity.

Again thanks. As always, I get better info and better answers on this forum than anywhere else.
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This won't help the popping sound. But, I have six, 12" sq wood pieces I put under the pads. They are each two pieces of exterior plywood, 3/4" thick, screwed together to give the pads a bit more surface area when not on concrete.
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