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Old 02-14-2015, 10:38 AM   #1
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Need help with length

When I had my Cedar Creek 30RL hooked up to my Silverado 3500 SWR the total length was 47ft 6in long, the 30RL was 34ft 3in. New 32RL is 35ft 8in but now total length of new camper and same truck is 51ft 5in. Why is that? I hope someone on here can help me out with a answer


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Old 02-14-2015, 10:39 AM   #2
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Trailer is longer.......and I guess it depends where your fifth wheel hook up is position on the trailer compared to previous one?
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Old 02-14-2015, 10:58 AM   #3
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I know trailer is 1ft 5in longer but then total should only be like 49ft


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I know trailer is 1ft 5in longer but then total should only be like 49ft


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I need to keep camper and truck at 50ft or a little less


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Old 02-14-2015, 11:17 AM   #5
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I need to keep camper and truck at 50ft or a little less


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It could be a different hitch on that unit. Is it the same hitch? That could be the only reason in my mind (which isn't much anymore)....
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Old 02-14-2015, 11:21 AM   #6
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Overall you have approx a 2.5' difference.

My thought would be somewhere you measured or read the tape incorrectly.

As for the pins that could be possible, I suppose a lot would depend on the overall weight for the actual pin placement on a trailer They all can't be say, 2' front the front of the nose cap.

One more thing, this kind of comes with that stupid question "did you plug it in?" By chance do you have a 5th wheel hitch with a slider?

When it comes to measuring "measure twice cut once"

Has to be a simple explanation.

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Old 02-14-2015, 12:03 PM   #7
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I measured the 30RL hooked up three or more times. I have a B&W hitch, I think it has something to do with the pin box on the new camper. I sure would like to get down under 50ft, someway.


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Need help

I'd bet it is an extended pin box. That and if you're using measurements from the manufacturer, they often under report by 12"-18". I think they don't include the bumper nor the hitch (and instead use the front cap or something).

Do you have the B&W in the forward most position?

I'm curious though- you said you need to be under 50'; why is that?
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I have measured this camper and its 35ft 8in long. NP campground in 2 campground spots in Yellowstone NP says you must be 50ft or less hooked up, Madison and Canyon


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I have measured this camper and its 35ft 8in long. NP campground in 2 campground spots in Yellowstone NP says you must be 50ft or less hooked up, Madison and Canyon

It must be an extended pin box. You could probably change that out, but you would lose clearance between the rear of the truck and fifth wheel and can to fifth wheel.
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On new fivers, you'll have to get with Lippert before swapping out the pin box otherwise possibly void the frame warranty. Learned this firsthand. Like mentioned, your pinbox probably sticks out forward of the front cap more due to the model creating an overall addition to hook up length. Do the parks you're concerned with actually drag out a tape measure and record your length??
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On new fivers, you'll have to get with Lippert before swapping out the pin box otherwise possibly void the frame warranty. Learned this firsthand. Like mentioned, your pinbox probably sticks out forward of the front cap more due to the model creating an overall addition to hook up length. Do the parks you're concerned with actually drag out a tape measure and record your length??

They have marked spots


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Old 02-14-2015, 04:07 PM   #13
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Stay someplace nearby and enjoy life! Why aggravate yourself? Some places are real sticklers. They want to win at any cost, not worth being upset over it.
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Old 02-14-2015, 04:56 PM   #14
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Well you can, West Yellowstone is a good place to stay but I like Canyon and Madison campgrounds are close to spots I like to see. I have 18 months before I can go so I will do something, I could put on a slider hitch, that would save a foot or I could buy a new truck with a short bed, I have a long bed.


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Sounds like you have a plan. Hey, if you have the options, go for it. I don't have that luxury. Yellowstone is such a majestic place. Love the whole area! Spent one foul weather day in the gift shop reading stories of crazy ways visitors actually lost their lives there.
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New math: You gained 3' 11" but only increased the trailer by 1' 5". That leaves 2' 6" of magic length. To find the extra footage you might try measuring from the king pin center line to the back. That will tell you if the added length is in the frame or the pin box or both. I'm thinking that it is both because an extended pin box is unlikely to add 2' 6".
Please keep in mind that when using new math, it does not matter if you get the answer right or wrong, it's how you work the problem. Your total rig length is 49' 11" using new math. Stick with that story and voila, your problem is solved.
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New math: You gained 3' 11" but only increased the trailer by 1' 5". That leaves 2' 6" of magic length. To find the extra footage you might try measuring from the king pin center line to the back. That will tell you if the added length is in the frame or the pin box or both. I'm thinking that it is both because an extended pin box is unlikely to add 2' 6".

Please keep in mind that when using new math, it does not matter if you get the answer right or wrong, it's how you work the problem. Your total rig length is 49' 11" using new math. Stick with that story and voila, your problem is solved.

I know this is going to sound dumb but if I went with a Tri-glide could that pin box maybe save a few inches, I need to save 5 inches. I could buy a 3/4 ton truck but I have this one almost paid for. I think I could buy a slider hitch and I could save at least a foot. Anyway I have 18 months to think this out.


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Is your truck a short or long box. 3/4t and 1t trucks are the same length only difference in lengths would be crew cab, regular cab, extended cab, and long or short box.
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How about a standard lippert pin box and a Hensley Trailer Saver?
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How about a standard lippert pin box and a Hensley Trailer Saver?

That's something I will look at


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