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09-07-2016, 07:57 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Oregon City, OR
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New standard Cedar Creek steps
I was at the factory during the FROG rally and was told that ALL Cedar Creeks being built from that date forward would have the Mor/Ryde one piece solid steps. These steps are 51" long and attach to the threshold. The only moving joint is where it is attached to the threshold. They fold as one long piece into the door way inside of the RV. The Mor/Ryde website shows the steps, but not how they are stored inside the RV.
I would like to get others thoughts on these new standard steps, Pros and Cons. Would you order/purchase a Cedar Creek knowing that you would get these steps?
My Pros/Cons:
Pros - sturdy steps
Cons - folds into RV, rain and dirt.
Parking in rest stops and truck stops, not being able to open steps next to a truck.
Park in 14' wide garage, not able to open steps to load/unload.
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09-07-2016, 08:12 AM
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Location: Komoka Ontario
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I seen them too, first impression was 'there nice' but once you thought about them and compared them to what is on now there are to many disadvantages. I'd rather have motorized steps working on a key fob. Just my two cents!
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09-07-2016, 08:16 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Between Pickles Gap and Toad Suck, AR
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Didn't care for the concept at all. Don't want those heavy things rattling around INSIDE my camper in transit.
If stability in steps is the issue, I got one of these for $15 or so, and it fixes that issue.
https://megadepot.com/product/stromb...D8YaAt7P8P8HAQ
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09-07-2016, 08:30 AM
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Always Learning
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Four Corners, FL
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My friends have them. I'll walk down to their rig today and check them out.
Overall, I like the idea that they firmly attach to the ground. The dirty and space issue thing is an interesting conundrum. I'll keep those in mind as I look at theirs.
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09-07-2016, 08:53 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Jefferson County, MO
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One of our friends had Mor/Ryde install them in their Cedar Creek at the rally. I like the steps, very sturdy and makes for an easy entry into a fifth wheel. What I’m not sold on is the idea of them being stored inside the camper.
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09-07-2016, 09:19 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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I feel they should be offered as a option as with talking to people about them and the reasons stated here already they would choose NOT to get them.
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09-07-2016, 10:58 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: New Hampshire
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The couple next to us at the rally had them...nice stairs but a bit big for me...I agree that they should be an option
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09-07-2016, 11:27 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2013
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Good idea but what about uneven ground, a curb, tight storage lot, mud and dirt dropping off. Where I camp and store my trailer they will not work. Sorry one more reason we will not be purchasing the new Cedar Creek we have thought of.
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09-07-2016, 12:25 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2015
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I do not like the idea AT ALL. I am too concerned about the dirt, and especially water dripping down off them onto the floor of the unit, especially where it can get under the floor and into the walls where they meet the floor. I don't care how much wiping down you do, if it's pouring rain, you are not going to get them dry. We also would not be able to deploy them where we store either, and from the storage yards I've seen, not many will. I hadn't even given that aspect a thought until someone just mentioned it. We often times open the door to level without putting the steps out, and we have an older dog who needs to be lifted in and out of the rig. It's much easier on me and her if we fold the steps in and can lift her straight in and out.
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09-07-2016, 12:35 PM
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Sounds better as an option.
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09-07-2016, 01:01 PM
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Location: Oregon
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For those (like me) who had never seen or heard of these steps...
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09-07-2016, 01:04 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Tukwila, WA
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Here is a video of how they work and what they look like.
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Seattle, WA
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09-07-2016, 01:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,460
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Can you remove them from the threshold?
We are seasonal and have a set of solid wooden steps with carpet for the dog and us too!!
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09-07-2016, 02:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Indianapolis
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Do not like this idea because when we are not traveling we stay at our home camp ground and we have stairs we made that we pull up that are much easier to go in and out and if we had those you couldn't do this which makes it hard for a disabled like me with a bad leg yes they should be an option
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09-07-2016, 03:15 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Oregon
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I love the innovation and "outside the box" thinking of these steps as well as their apparent stability vs standard steps, but it seems like a bad idea for CC to have decided to use these on all trailers. I guess the "option" now is to not buy CC.
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09-07-2016, 03:46 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Oregon City, OR
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That's our current dilemma. We have been getting quotes to purchase a new Champagne and have two dealers close in pricing. But, I have told them and the factory that I will not purchase one unless I can get the normal fold up steps. May have to go with some other brand instead. Started looking at the Riverstone. But would prefer the Champagne. We'll see how this plays out.
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2017 Ford F-350 Platinum DRW, 6.7L
2018 Cedar Creek Champagne 38EL
Camped - 2014-47, 2015-104, 2016-100, 2017-161, 2018-94
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09-07-2016, 03:47 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Warsaw,NC
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It seems to me that Cedar Creek has found another way to save a buck. Instead of beating the competition Cedar Creek is sending customers to there competition.
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09-07-2016, 03:51 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harkerr
Sounds better as an option.
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Per my contact at Cedar Creek, both step styles are available at this time.
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09-07-2016, 03:52 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SnP
That's our current dilemma. We have been getting quotes to purchase a new Champagne and have two dealers close in pricing. But, I have told them and the factory that I will not purchase one unless I can get the normal fold up steps. May have to go with some other brand instead. Started looking at the Riverstone. But would prefer the Champagne. We'll see how this plays out.
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Come on we need some company, buy a River Stone
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09-07-2016, 03:55 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,499
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A friend of mine is picking up a new cedar Creek champagne later this month. I'll get to see it early October when we meet them in pigeon forge. Steps have my curiosity aroused.
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