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Old 11-25-2012, 11:08 PM   #1
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We have a 2013 Cedar Creek 30 RL. When we turn on the radio the outside speakers are always on, we can turn the volume down but not all the off. I have not be able to find any switches (like speaker A & B on the radio) Has anybody else had that issue?
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:02 AM   #2
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I am not familier with your unit. I think you may have a Gennis 3 radio unit. If so there are 3 buttons in a vertical pattern on the upper right side. Top toggles living area speakers on/off and screen will give a quick on/off display. Of coarse you should hear if they are are turning on or off. Middle should be bed room and bottom the outside. You can choose any one or any combination. The buttons may be labeled A , B, C. but my unit is closed up for winter so only guessing at the markings on the buttons.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:18 AM   #3
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I wasn't able to find out what unit you have so a picture might be helpful.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:02 AM   #4
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On your remote near the top, there are 3 buttons labeled A, B, C. A is for lr speakers, B is for br speakers and C is for outside speakers. When you press one of the buttons, the screen on the unit will say whether it is on or off.
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Unless something has changed, Cedar Creek does not use the GT3 nor any other 12Volt radio. They were using a home theater in the box for the living room and I am unsure what they are doing for the outside speakers.

Posting a picture will the radio/radios would be helpful.
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Here is a picture of the set-up

The radio is "DUAL" XDMA 5280 with a VIZIO 31" home theater sound bar



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Thanks for the pics. Looks like the home theater system is probably just your living room and the Dual is used for the Radio and CD play back.

You probably will need to use the FADER control to shut off the outside speakers or the inside speakers for that matter if you only want outside.


You may want to contact your dealer for assistance with this one.
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When I turn the FADER down for the outside speakers they do turn down but not all the way off, you can still hear some sound. When I do the sound is OK inside the coach. I am starting think that it works like in a car, where you can switch from front to back using the FADER.
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That is what I am thinking when I gave my response. Sorry I was not more clear. bummer they don't shut off all the way though...
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Thanks Bob...I guess everybody will just have to listen to Bob Dylan when we are camping
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You could always install a speaker switch to disconnect the outside speakers completely when you want. Looks like you have plenty of room around around the stereo to mount one.
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:10 PM   #12
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Speaker Switch

We have a 38FL with the same radio - and same fader issue. The bigger issue for me is if I want to turn on the radio, and the kids have played with the fader, it is possible to turn it on and not know the outside speakers are on when it is early/late....

I am planning on installing a switch like this one to switch between speakers.

Easily select between two sets of speakers! For in-wall speaker wire up to 14 AWG.

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Thanks, I will install a switch, that will solve the issue.
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I am starting think that it works like in a car, where you can switch from front to back using the FADER.
That looks like the same stereo we have in our camper, and that is exactly how it works. Our outside speakers do turn completely off when you use the fader.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:53 AM   #15
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Ah, put a switch on one of the leads to each speaker- i did that to my subwoofer inside 'cause couldn't stand all the base in some instances and it works great.
IE: each speaker should have 2 wires running to it Black/red & black/grey-- put a switch on the red and one on the grey.
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Just go to Radio Shack and get an On/Off toggle switch like this Toggle Switch with On/Off Label Plate : Toggle Switches | RadioShack.com
Cut one wire (doesn't matter which one). Attach cut wire to swtch and your good to go.
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The Factory said they were having an interference problem if they used a secondary switch to control the speakers outside and it was causing a buzzing in the sound
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:00 PM   #18
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If they were having an interference problem using a speaker switch, then there is a ground issue.

Correction to my earlier post:
Depending on how the speakers are wired, the is either a single ground or a ground for each speaker. If a single ground then you would put the switch inline there. If dual grounds you would need to use an A/B switch. Sory for the confusion.
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It is also best to use an impedance matching switch. Disconnecting speakers from a radio output can risk the final amplifier in the radio - they can overheat and burnout if there is no load on the channel. This maybe the reason CC was having feedback/humming on the inside channel if they were using just a switch to disconnect outside speakers.

This is not super-critical as it could be done with a regular switch, but I have ordered the switch below and waiting for it to come in.. then will install it between the inside/outside speakers. Will put a dummy load on the "rear" speaker outputs and use the switch on the "front" speakers between outside and inside.

In-Wall A-B Speaker Selector Switch - White - Inserts & Wallplates (Decorative)
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:23 PM   #20
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Ok recieved the speaker switch today...

Switch will be installed right where the velcro strip is located.



Backside of switch - wire connections go here.


Front side - can have inside (A) on, outside (B) on, or Both.

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