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Old 09-21-2019, 02:14 PM   #1
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Possible Silverback 31IK purchase

New to this forum and looking for some helpful info. We currently have a 2013 Big Country and looking at moving to the 31IK. We have found one (2020) that has dual pane windows, the 10" mattress and wireless rear camera system along with some other options. I'm looking for opinions, and we all have them, of these three options, in particular the dual panes. I have read in the past they help with outside noise but they also don't hold up well in an RV. I would like to have them but don't want to give myself any issues down the road. We don't really go off the blacktop so that would help.

Also I read on a review also that the two way fridge takes a couple of days to cool down...maybe they were in the southwest in the summer. I normally plug in the day before we load up. Your experience?

Any other pluses or minuses please let me know about on the Cedar Creek. Thanks and looking forward to some good info.
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Old 09-21-2019, 02:35 PM   #2
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New to this forum and looking for some helpful info. We currently have a 2013 Big Country and looking at moving to the 31IK. We have found one (2020) that has dual pane windows, the 10" mattress and wireless rear camera system along with some other options. I'm looking for opinions, and we all have them, of these three options, in particular the dual panes. I have read in the past they help with outside noise but they also don't hold up well in an RV. I would like to have them but don't want to give myself any issues down the road. We don't really go off the blacktop so that would help.

Also I read on a review also that the two way fridge takes a couple of days to cool down...maybe they were in the southwest in the summer. I normally plug in the day before we load up. Your experience?

Any other pluses or minuses please let me know about on the Cedar Creek. Thanks and looking forward to some good info.
I have a Wildcat, not a Cedar Creek... but some of these features are same/similar.
I really appreciate my wireless rear observation camera. It really helps in getting out of that Waffle House parking lot when you thought there was a rear exit.
Re: refrigerator -- my Dometic refrigerator will get operation cold in less than 24 hours using electricity. I live in Texas but my trailer lives in the shade of a metal shed which helps some. Also, my refrigerator is NOT in a slide-out so it doesn't have the ventilation issues about which some members complain.
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Old 09-22-2019, 12:06 AM   #3
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New to this forum and looking for some helpful info. We currently have a 2013 Big Country and looking at moving to the 31IK. We have found one (2020) that has dual pane windows, the 10" mattress and wireless rear camera system along with some other options. I'm looking for opinions, and we all have them, of these three options, in particular the dual panes. I have read in the past they help with outside noise but they also don't hold up well in an RV. I would like to have them but don't want to give myself any issues down the road. We don't really go off the blacktop so that would help.

Also I read on a review also that the two way fridge takes a couple of days to cool down...maybe they were in the southwest in the summer. I normally plug in the day before we load up. Your experience?

Any other pluses or minuses please let me know about on the Cedar Creek. Thanks and looking forward to some good info.
We have an early 2020 CC Hathaway 34IK, took delivery March 28 this year. From what I've read, the differences in the Hathaway and Silverback are the Hathaway is rated 'full time living' and some of the standards on the Hathaway are options on the Silverback AND the suspension/axels is heavier duty on the Hathaway. As far as interior things, they look pretty much the same. Ours has a window behind the range top.

We ordered with the dual pane windows. We had no issues with dual pane windows in our truck camper, loved the insulation factor and noise reduction, so time will tell how CC dual panes hold up.

We ordered ours with the 2 way fridge...our brand is Norcold. No issues with cooling and yes, plug it in at least 12 hours before just like you would with any fridge. Usually, I plug in the night before I want to load for a trip. Freezer cools MUCH quicker, but fridge DOES cool. Try 'cold packs' if you want it to cool faster. If you plug it in 24 hours before loading and have it on as cold as you can set it (9), it'll be a dual freezer, FYI. I usually run mine on setting 7 and all is fine. Just know that it DOES NOT KEEP COLD over night with no power. Gotta turn on the propane if you want things cold and/or frozen in the morning (power went out at the park one night while we were camping).

Camera system works fine. Nice to have it; works like a vehicle back up camera. No mod to the truck is needed to operate it wirelessly.

In 2020, CC has gone away from the Furrion Chef oven/range top that they had in the 2019 and 2019.5 and now have a 24" slide in Insignia gas range with 4 burners. Our 34IK was early enough in the 2020 model year that it has the Furrion set up. Personally, I love it. Some hate it. It's comparable to my high end Samsung gas range at home. The issue with the Furrion oven is the temperature is off 25 degrees (reads hot), some up to 50. Not an issue for me as I use an oven thermometer. Some don't like that the fan is on all the time. Some don't like that the light stays on. Again, not an issue for me. The range top is awesome! AND I like the look of the Furrion set up. It does NOT have a broiler. Not an issue for me as I either throw the steaks on the grill outside or use my Tupperware MicroPro in the microwave.

Microwave in our 34IK is a standard Insignia full size residential microwave. If you don't want to bake or roast with the gas oven, then get the convection microwave. It's an upgrade you'll pay extra for. I like cooking/baking with gas, so we chose the standard microwave.

DO NOT, repeat, DO NOT get the 'pleather' furniture. Search the forum for peeling issues. It's not just a Forest River brand issue...it's across the board with this kind of furniture in all RVs. WE WERE WARNED, TOO! SO, we ordered with the Cashmere fabric. We have 2 Australian Shepherds. They are rarely on the furniture, but if they did get up there, their nails wouldn't hurt it. It's a nice medium shade of tan and feels like quality residential microfiber. EZ clean. Another 'love' in this coach.

We LOVE the MorRyde steps. Some hate them. We store our 34IK in our barn so access with the MorRyde steps isn't an issue (can be an issue if you have to store your RV in a storage unit). Sweeping/cleaning them off before travel isn't an issue for us. After 'rickety' truck camper steps, these are a blessing for us.

We've had a few little issues: bathroom fan didn't work; fridge needed a new propane part; a window screen didn't fit properly (ordered new); low point drains leaked at the clamps...little things--nothing major. We have more issues with our dealer taking forever to fix minor things under warranty than we do with the 5th wheel itself.

We researched a long time, finally settling on the CC. So far, we're really glad we did.
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Old 09-22-2019, 07:54 AM   #4
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I thought hard about dual pane windows.

They improve r value only a bit. For that not worth it. However it improves condensation. So when running the furnace it helps. Kind of wish we had them.

We have the rear camera. Have not figured out how to really use it. We use the cellphone and a spotter.

Have the thicker mattress with a 3” topper. Love it!

Bought from Couches in Hamilton Ohio.

The rv fridge works well if you often need to use minimum electricity. Needs pre cooling. What we have done is put multiple frozen gallons of drinking water in with pre cooled food. Virtually no pre cooling. Not good for ice cream in Texas.



Our Hathaway is right for us. Lazy boy furniture.

We often stay in state campgrounds with 30 amp service.
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:05 PM   #5
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We are on our 2nd CC...we traded our 10 yr old Silverback in for our signature Hathaway. We have noticed the dual pane windows are much better than single panes (which our Silverback had).

Our Propane/Electric refer maintained temps in the mid 30s with a heat index of 110-115 this summer during our 3 week trip to the mid west....I have 4 small fans inside it to circulate the air. Yes, we turn it on the night before we load up. I did NOT want to deal with an inverter and extra batteries and then have to worry about them dying while on the road driving all day or going off the grid.

We really haven't used the oven yet, so have no opinion...but like the stove. The observation camera is really nice when in heavy traffic. You have to have your running lights on for it to work. We know a lot of creekers that have removed those fancy stairs and gone back to the folding type - which is what we order ours with.

We are really happy with our CC Hathaway.....I also added disc brakes, and would not go back to a trailer with drums.

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Old 09-23-2019, 12:25 AM   #6
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I have the Cedar Creek Hathaway. Since we are full time, we went with the residential refrigerator. Very happy with it.
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Old 09-23-2019, 01:00 PM   #7
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Thermopane windows came with our camper and after 2 years I would want them again for the reasons given already.
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Old 09-28-2019, 11:22 AM   #8
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I would love to find one used w/ the double pane windows. I have been told by a deal rep, it is an expensive option as the window frames are different and they have shut down the line to install. We live in TX and it would help in summer. The friends that have them -Grand Design, love them. It does seem quieter and they have a lot of windows. One advantage of the 2 way Refrig. it seems to do better at altitude than residential, IMO. And saves weight w/o inventor and 2 extra batteries. My 2-way, auto switches to propane if we lose power while not here.
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Old 09-29-2019, 03:42 PM   #9
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Thanks everyone for the replies. Picking up the 2020 31IK this Friday with the dual panes, two way fridge and b/u cam. First outing will be to the local RV park that has full hook-ups. We're in the Escapees RV Club and will be heading to Rock Springs, WY this summer for a national rally - be the longest road trip we've done in an RV. Now to sell our Big Country....
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Old 10-10-2019, 07:05 PM   #10
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We just picked up our 31IK yesterday I have it plugged in at the house we are selling and moving out, while losding up the RV our first trip a big one in two weeks out west to AZ. Never done this lot to learn but it is exciting. The RV is beautiful no daul pane windows I thought about them .
Got W&D instead.
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Old 10-10-2019, 07:12 PM   #11
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My DW made the same choice. Foggy windows sometimes, no laundromat!

We both love the auto level.

We can go from highway to cocktails in less then 30 minutes.
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Old 10-10-2019, 07:18 PM   #12
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Now that sounds great ,I love the auto level as it bamb leveled out in my driveway like I knew what I was doing. I am practicing hooking up and unlocking, closing up for a move I will relocate to a RV park in about 10 days so that will be my first test on parking ,hooking up everything, big adventure.
We got the view camera system also along with the WD . I think this orcthec29RE are great for the money not cheap but solid units.
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Old 10-10-2019, 07:35 PM   #13
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There is a learning curve to the auto level. Got to get leg extensions to be equal amounts! Uneven piles of pads!

We carry 36” of pads for them.

If the system is unhappy it locks up.

We then use the manual bypass. But, not lately as we learned the trick.

I thought Cedar Creek was good bang for the buck. We bought the 34RE. Likely the last one made.
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Old 10-10-2019, 07:50 PM   #14
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Thanks for the info ,and that is a great choice . We went from 3 or 4 models at least 5 times as it being our first one I was quimishvabout length as the area we live has these narrow 1960 roads with tight turns to get to myvstreet so had back it down my street oh 700 ft before even getting to my driveway . That was enough education for one day.
But we must learn right. I am looking forward to the open spaces out west so many places we want to see and hike in, learn about. I have been in many countries but this one sure is hard to beat.
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Ehat are the best pads to get? 2x10 wood blocks or something else better.
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