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03-07-2017, 08:37 PM
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Power Protectors
Progressive hardwire or portable power protector which one do you have and recommend.
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03-07-2017, 08:53 PM
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With the hardwired version it is one less thing to mess with during setup. Also, the remote display is very useful for monitoring power usage.
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03-07-2017, 08:56 PM
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PI EMS-HW30C. I'm too good at leaving things behind. 
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03-07-2017, 09:15 PM
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Power Protectors
PI hard wire here
And if you think you will ever trade up, buy the 50 amp now.
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Just glad to get away 
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03-07-2017, 09:20 PM
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Just as confused as you
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: south central Wisconsin
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On the hardwired version be sure to plug in the remote display before you turn on any power. It is the brains of the unit and it will not protect your electronics without it.
I saw it happen with the PI EMS-HW50C and it was not pretty. $960 to repair damaged converter and 45 inch tv.
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2014 Flagstaff 832IKBS Classic Super Lite
2018 Silverado 1500 Crew Cab Z71 4WD All Star Edition
Camping since 1989, Seasonal since 2000.
Car Shredder Op/Tech, Scrap Metal Recycling - retired
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03-08-2017, 08:49 AM
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Strongly, strongly, strongly recommend the hard wired version. We have the PI 50C and will always have one.
Shortly after purchasing our CC we had a failure (open neutral) in the shore cord, despite the fact we had a surge gard on the pole it was before the failed cord.
The open neutral did extensive damage to the trailer. Had we had a hard wired unit installed after the cord it would have caught the Open Neutral and saved a tremendous amount of grief on my part with FR.
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03-08-2017, 08:52 AM
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Prefer the portable.
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03-08-2017, 08:55 AM
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X2 - recommend the hardwired because it is just one less thing you have to futz with when setting up & breaking camp.
Also, if you want absolutely bulletproof power, consider getting a Hayes Autoformer--especially on a high end unit like a Cedar Creek.
https://hughesautoformers.com/
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| SMI AF-1 Air Brake | 2016 Jeep Cherokee Overland TOAD | Pedego Bikes |
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03-08-2017, 08:58 AM
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I'm in the minority here but I have the portable model. My thinking is if something does go wrong I want it to happen away from my camper, not in it. Pic of a fried surge protector:
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03-08-2017, 09:49 AM
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I too agree with the portable unit. I have had my unit for seven years now and with two different 5er's. If I had installed a fixed unit in my first 5er I would have to purchase a new unit for my new 5er. And that is one cost I have not had to incur with our current trailer.
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03-08-2017, 10:38 AM
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Location: Dacula, Georgia
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Progressive portable. 3 years. Zero issues. Our rv stays plugged in on site all winter. I simply put a chain and lock from Ace Hardware to prevent theft. Progressive has a "same owner" life guaranty. These units STOP any intrusion of fault at the POWER BOX. Your ac's are on a 2 minute delay. Pleased with Progressive!!
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03-08-2017, 11:01 AM
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I like the hardwired unit. The remote display is nice to have setup inside the trailer to easily see what is occuring electrically. It won't take much to transfer it to a different RV when that day comes.
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2014 36 CKTS: Titan Disc Brakes, EMS, Trav'lr, 20k GooseBox
2016 Ram 3500 CTD 4x4 CCLB DRW, Laramie, Factory Rear Air Suspension, 3.73
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03-08-2017, 07:47 PM
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Thanks for the replies, never thought about shore power cord having a problem with that in mind think i will go the hardwired route.
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03-09-2017, 07:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gitiup
Thanks for the replies, never thought about shore power cord having a problem with that in mind think i will go the hardwired route.
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03-09-2017, 08:16 AM
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I have the portable one, I trade campers often. Plus if there is a problem I want the problem to be at the pedestal that way I save my expensive 50amp cable.
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03-09-2017, 08:32 PM
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I'm a Progressive Industries hardwired guy ( HW 50C). We installed ours when we purchased our Creek last year. Have been greatly pleased with the unit.
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03-10-2017, 02:14 PM
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Just as confused as you
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: south central Wisconsin
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I have a EMS-HW30C installed in my TT. Was simple to hook up myself. What took the longest was figuring out where to put it.
Take a look at these documents. They my help you decide.
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2014 Flagstaff 832IKBS Classic Super Lite
2018 Silverado 1500 Crew Cab Z71 4WD All Star Edition
Camping since 1989, Seasonal since 2000.
Car Shredder Op/Tech, Scrap Metal Recycling - retired
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03-10-2017, 02:35 PM
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World Wide Wanderer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gitiup
Thanks for the replies, never thought about shore power cord having a problem with that in mind think i will go the hardwired route.
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Now what happens when you have a problem down line from the EMS unit?
Electrical happens all up and down the circuits. Bad power cord, bad converter, bad plugs, etc, etc.
FWIW I currently us a portable and probably will for the foreseeable future. I like the fact I can check the power on the post prior to getting backed in and set up.
Aaron 
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03-10-2017, 05:29 PM
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Another vote for the hard wired 50 amp PI.
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