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Old 12-13-2015, 01:41 PM   #1
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Real Newby, Pre-Purchase Question on Weight

Recently purchased a new King Ranch F250 4x4 6.7L Diesel SRW, it can handle 15,100 lbs with fifth wheel hauling. I am wishing to purchase a Silverback 37RL at 12,830 lbs. With all extra weight added, we are looking at towing about 13,800 lbs. Respectfully from you seasoned haulers, does this seem ok with the weight? Many Thanks!
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Old 12-13-2015, 01:47 PM   #2
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For sure!!

You will be under your towing, but likely over the gvwr rated sticker on your door.


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You will likely be over your Gvwr. Best thing to do is go weigh your truck with full tank of fuel and all passengers, pets and gear you plan to have in it when towing. If you go to a catscale, Weigh your front axle on scale pad one and rear axle on scale pad two. This will allow you to get a total truck weight and each axle weight. Subtract the total truck weight from your gcwr to get your adjusted towing capacity. Subtract your total truck weight from your Gvwr to get your available payload. Subtract your rear axle weight from your GRAWR to get your available rear axle capacity. The loaded weight of the fiver needs to be within the adjusted towing capacity. The loaded pin weight of the fiver needs to be within your available rear axle capacity and within your available payload. Ideal pin weight will be 10-25% of loaded fiver weight, most average closer to 20%. Most typically add around 1000-1500 lbs to their trailers. Although doing your calculations using fiver Gvwr is by far the safest though you will not likely be at max capacity. Also if you don't have a hitch in your truck bed yet, you can add approx 150 lbs for that.
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All of the above and then there is your tire (rear specifically) load carrying capacity. If you have 17" wheels they are E load range. Add your truck rear axle weight loaded with all aboard and your pin weight with the Silverback ready to go including your DW's shoe collection and if your rubber does not exceed that number you will be in an unsafe situation.
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Thanks

Thanks for all the great info.
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Jesse here is what I found. You should be good on the combined weight. Click image for larger version

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Jesse here is what I found. You should be good on the combined weight. Attachment 96158


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Just remember, it is about more than just combined weight. Each and every option on your truck takes away from posted payloads and towing capacities as does the hitch, passengers, pets and anything else you stick in or on your truck.
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You have a KR. One of the highest trim.
Go stick it on a scale.
Only way to know for sure.

When I had my ram 2500. I had a family of four in the truck and went over the scale at the airport.
We only had 800 lbs of payload left.
That's with no trailer.


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Recently purchased a new King Ranch F250 4x4 6.7L Diesel SRW, it can handle 15,100 lbs with fifth wheel hauling. I am wishing to purchase a Silverback 37RL at 12,830 lbs. With all extra weight added, we are looking at towing about 13,800 lbs. Respectfully from you seasoned haulers, does this seem ok with the weight? Many Thanks!
When we purchased our Silverback 29RE at a show, the dry weight sticker on that model showed 10,356 lbs. When ours arrived I was shocked at the new dry weight, with the added front A/C, and double pane windows, my dry weight came in at 11,250 lbs. 900 lbs for the added two options. If you are ordering with options, your dry weight at 12,830 maybe a lot more. Also, on a F250, pin weight my be something else you may want to watch.
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After scales and stickers, its really all about available Payload. For the 250s and 2500s its 10,000 pounds minus the trucks combined scale weight when loaded with passengers, fuel, hitch in the bed and the family's "stuff". Example, my 2015 2500 has a sticker Payload available 2,519#, after scaling as described, the 10000# delta is 1,994#.

My 5th wheel tow capability has plenty of room, so I looked to the Rear Axle and tire capabilities, doing that I have more truck rear payload room. With that method, I just had to make sure I didn't get a 5th wheel where my tongue weight was less than the 10% to 25% safety factor.

Bottom line, I'm barely within my truck scaled payload availability, but I'm comfortable with the margin of closeness based upon better measures on RAWR and trailer pin weight.
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