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07-10-2016, 03:16 PM
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Junior Member
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Sewer Hoses
Hi,
Just bought a 2016 Cedar Creek 34RE. Love it--just wondering why the space for the sewer hose is only big enough for the hose and not the locking section. Seems like a poor design. Using a large Rubbermaid tub again
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07-10-2016, 03:34 PM
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Location: Southern NM
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I agree!! I think it was designed by an engineer that never used an RV of any kind .
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07-10-2016, 03:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2015
Location: USA
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I end up shaving the tabs off to get mine to fit....I also made an pvc pipe to hold my extra hose and attached it under the frame.
2014 cedar creek 36ckts
2014 Chevy 3500 1 ton crew cab 4x4 long bed.
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07-10-2016, 03:38 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Clarksville Va.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sandg
Hi,
Just bought a 2016 Cedar Creek 34RE. Love it--just wondering why the space for the sewer hose is only big enough for the hose and not the locking section. Seems like a poor design. Using a large Rubbermaid tub again
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Where is your storage space located. Some units do not have the 4" bumper that many people store them in, I don't think that is such a great place being they are normally wet and will cause it to rust from the inside out over time. How much time I do not know. I couldn't fit the Rhino type hose in mine with the ends on them, got tired of putting them back on and taking them off all the time. So with help on installation I just put 5" fence post under the unit. Using 5" it allowed me to also store 4" pvc gutter with the hose inside, now I don't have the the pee traps with positive flow. I'm not sure that I have even seen a CC with a bumper which IMO is stupid. At least with the 4" bumper which will stick out about 6" before you hit your fiberglass incase you back into something. Height from the ground is no problem being the axle is lower then the fence post. I use to carry them in a sealed plastic container that took up a lot of room. Besides that poor design, your R/A from the furnace is non ducted so you could pull smells into your living area unless you have walled sealed compartment to keep them in....
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07-10-2016, 03:50 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Warsaw,NC
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I just brought a plastic box from Walmart, well I actually got two, one for putting my water hoses in. They stack on top of each other. That way they stay separate and no contact.
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07-11-2016, 10:59 AM
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Yep even some 6 inch PVC and a gutter with some all thread and couple pieces of steel you can mount it underneath long enough for 20 ft of the heavy duty hose...couplings heck...my hose is too big to fit in the bumper much less the couplings...lol lol
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07-12-2016, 10:50 AM
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Location: Northwest Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch Doctor
So with help on installation I just put 5" fence post under the unit. Using 5" it allowed me to also store 4" pvc gutter with the hose inside, now I don't have the the pee traps with positive flow.
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Would love to photo of where and how you did this...then I'll owe you one
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07-12-2016, 03:44 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Oswego il
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch Doctor
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That's fine if you have a bumper to install your device but it won't work on a Cedar Creek no bumper!
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2016 34RL CC; 2008 Ram Mega Cab 2500HD, 6.7L, 68RFE 6 speed, 4X4, Smarty S67, TDR 145K+miles
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07-12-2016, 03:59 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Oswego il
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sandg
Hi,
Just bought a 2016 Cedar Creek 34RE. Love it--just wondering why the space for the sewer hose is only big enough for the hose and not the locking section. Seems like a poor design. Using a large Rubbermaid tub again
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I carry my 50' of sewer hose in two totes. I also do not use the sewer hose compartment on my 34RL, it is just an empty space. I have three totes labeled sewer hose, black water hose and sewer hose support with fittings. I have found this to be the best way and have transferred the containers from my previous 5er to our 34RL last year.
I have found with the placement of the sewer drain location on my 34RL. That at some old campgrounds I have need at least 30' of sewer hose to empty the tanks, so I am glad that I have kept all of my sewer hoses from the past.
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07-15-2016, 09:29 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 486
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Sewer Hose Storage 36 CKTS
Quote:
Originally Posted by sandg
Hi,
Just bought a 2016 Cedar Creek 34RE. Love it--just wondering why the space for the sewer hose is only big enough for the hose and not the locking section. Seems like a poor design. Using a large Rubbermaid tub again
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If your 34RE has the same storage compartment as my 2013 36CKTS here's what you can do.
Rhino-Flex will not fit.
Cut out the door assembly and mount it on a 4 3/4" X 4 3/4" OD PVC fence post cover
Original holder on top.
New holder on bottom with PVC rain gutter to hold Rhino-
flex.
Installed and ready to go.
C.B.
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07-15-2016, 04:05 PM
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CCRVOC
Join Date: Jan 2012
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X2 CB.. I followed your design a while back and it is perfect solution ! 😀
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07-22-2016, 08:21 AM
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Location: Hernando beach Florida
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This is what I did. 5 in. Square pvc fence post cover with to top caps and 6 in bolts with wing nuts to secure the the caps. Mount with L brackets to frame. I can get 30 feet of rhino hose in it. Cost about $ 18.00
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07-22-2016, 09:26 AM
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Location: Dade City Florida
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Whoever assembled the undercarriage of our Vengeance 29V tried to put the tube and the spare tire in the same space, crushing the tube. So as a temporary fix I have been stowing the Rhino hose and fittings on the hitch platform using bungee cords. This seems to be working out quite well so I am considering affixing a plastic tub to hold all the sewer parts.
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07-23-2016, 12:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
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I use the sewer hose storage place on the driver side just for a dump station hose, the rest go in the tubs.
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07-23-2016, 12:26 PM
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I foolishly left my hose at a campground where it was hanging to dry two weeks ago. It was a Rhino. I checked the library here and saw information on hoses but it was about a year old. I'm wondering if there are any updates on the best, or better, hoses to purchase. In particular the Valtera and Dominator. I understand the Valtera is thicker but what about the crushability of these hoses as compared to one another AND the effectiveness of the fittings?
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07-23-2016, 12:31 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Between Pickles Gap and Toad Suck, AR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sfsgm
I foolishly left my hose at a campground where it was hanging to dry two weeks ago. It was a Rhino. I checked the library here and saw information on hoses but it was about a year old. I'm wondering if there are any updates on the best, or better, hoses to purchase. In particular the Valtera and Dominator. I understand the Valtera is thicker but what about the crushability of these hoses as compared to one another AND the effectiveness of the fittings?
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I posted that question and didn't get much response. The Rhino I bought with trailer developed a ton of pin holes. So I just researched myself and bought the Valterra Viper.....a bunch of it..........and it appears sturdy, and i like the connectors better. But till I use it, I have no real way to know.
I got a Sani Tube to mount under the trailer to store hoses, but have about decided to sell it instead (not used yet) and keep these in a separate vinyl tub. I hear you need 2.209 miles of sewer hose at Goshen. With my luck I'll have 2.2 miles.........but for everywhere else, I think I'm covered! LOL
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07-23-2016, 06:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Southern NM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandJCarm
I posted that question and didn't get much response. The Rhino I bought with trailer developed a ton of pin holes. So I just researched myself and bought the Valterra Viper.....a bunch of it..........and it appears sturdy, and i like the connectors better. But till I use it, I have no real way to know.
I got a Sani Tube to mount under the trailer to store hoses, but have about decided to sell it instead (not used yet) and keep these in a separate vinyl tub. I hear you need 2.209 miles of sewer hose at Goshen. With my luck I'll have 2.2 miles.........but for everywhere else, I think I'm covered! LOL
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We just bought the Thetford Titan sewer hoses. So far I really like the extra long connector grips and it seems very sturdy. Time will tell if it is as heavy duty as they say. We got 30' (2 -15' sections) worth and so far with our rig that is the most we have needed. Our clean outs are mid trailer. Our other hoses were about 15 years old and don't even remember the brand but we got our money's worth!
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2012 Wildcat Sterling 32RL - w/level up (best option ever)
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07-24-2016, 08:30 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Haslet Texas
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I switched to the Valterra Dominator a few years ago when our Rhino started to leak. I like it much better than the Rhino, it is more durable and the end is much easier to put in the drain than the 2 piece Rhino set up.
I think I have 3 sections, 2 long ones and 1 regular. And I have had to use all of them more than once.
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07-24-2016, 11:27 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Clarksville Va.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandJCarm
I posted that question and didn't get much response. The Rhino I bought with trailer developed a ton of pin holes. So I just researched myself and bought the Valterra Viper.....a bunch of it..........and it appears sturdy, and i like the connectors better. But till I use it, I have no real way to know.
I got a Sani Tube to mount under the trailer to store hoses, but have about decided to sell it instead (not used yet) and keep these in a separate vinyl tub. I hear you need 2.209 miles of sewer hose at Goshen. With my luck I'll have 2.2 miles.........but for everywhere else, I think I'm covered! LOL
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Depending on where your TT waist is located, Mine is in the middle of a 32' 5er. I had to use over 20' of hose. I also brought a bag of extra cheap hose in the pick-up bed. 40' total both people on the sides of me didn't have enough so I let them use my extra. Your sewer if your lucky to get one is at the electrical box. the boxes are in between the middle of both rows yours and the one behind it, you share the pole but both sewer drains are there also... .
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