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02-03-2016, 12:59 PM
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True....for some reason my dealer balked at putting LT tires on my new Silverback...told them no deal then....I had just put new tires on my old rig so we made a deal that they would meet me at a tire dealership and they would allow me to have the tires swapped............Now as far as G-614's.....I have looked at several cities on Discount tire and all show not available at this time and on Tire Rack they aren't even listed????????.....not sure what's up with that.....seemed to be a good tire and out of all the people who have had them I have never heard of a problem....unlike the hundreds of cases of their Marathons blowing up....
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02-03-2016, 01:47 PM
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It looks like Simple Tire has them. I looked at there website
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02-03-2016, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BandJCarm
OK, someone help me with this
I have read all this.........new info to me........and appreciated.....and we're in market for a new Cedar Creek 5'er.
I send some of this to my salesman and I get told this is all wrong, that the whole industry stopped using Goodyear tires, and he sends me a bunch of attachments to read. However, they APPEAR to be only a discussion of stopping using LT type tires, NOT a discussion about stopping using Goodyear.
I told him that the tires in this thread were ST type tires, and so what's wrong with them?
He just gave me Cedar Creek's number and said "Call them, they will explain it to you".
First, I'd be surprised if they'd discuss that with me...........but second, what is going on here? Too many actual satisfied users of these, per this thread (and even such things as Amazon customer reviews) for these to be banned by the manufacturer or some such.
Can someone enlighten me???
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Yes the factory will discuss things with you call the number provided. I had some questions on my unit when I purchase my camper in Feb of 15 and the sales people from the factory answered my questions.
Now as far as Goodyear tires being an option for the Cedar Creek in late 2015/early 2016 these where not offered. I have a price list from the factory dated Jan 2014, and also Feb 2015, and the Goodyear tires are not on the list. We ordered our new Cedar Creek in Feb 15 and received an early 2016 34RL, in May with the WestLake Tires installed. I have put on over 8,000 miles on these tires last year with no issues what so every.
When we received the trailer I did an internet search on WESTLAKE tires to find out the reviews on them. From what I could find out they have had very good reviews. I also could not find anything in the NHTSA data base doing a search for tire issues on Cedar Creeks or Silver Back trailers using Westlake tires.
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02-03-2016, 02:03 PM
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Now I looked at the new Cedar Creek, the Champagne Edition and it looks like the G614 comes standard on them. I looked at Lazy Days website
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02-03-2016, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by spock123
Now I looked at the new Cedar Creek, the Champagne Edition and it looks like the G614 comes standard on them. I looked at Lazy Days website
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Aren't those 17.5" tires and rims now not the old 16" tires and rims?
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02-03-2016, 02:16 PM
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I had the Westlake tires on my 30RL and they seemed like good tires. The 32RL which I have now have the G614 and I brought this camper in March of last year. I have seen a 36CKTS at Carolina RV in Myrtle Beach, it's a 2015 model and a 2016 sitting beside it with the Westlake tires on the 16 and the G614 on the 15.
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02-03-2016, 02:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim34RL
Aren't those 17.5" tires and rims now not the old 16" tires and rims?
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On the Lazy Days website it says G rated, I thought the 17.5 was H rated. I looked at the Goodyear site and only the 16 was G rated, the 17.5 was H rated
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02-03-2016, 02:26 PM
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I'm at LazyDays in Tampa. I can go walk the lot this weekend..
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02-03-2016, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ependydad
I'm at LazyDays in Tampa. I can go walk the lot this weekend..
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Good deal. Don't they have the Riverstone too?
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02-03-2016, 02:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spock123
Good deal. Don't they have the Riverstone too?
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No idea.  I'm just here for the RV park and a rally.
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02-03-2016, 02:48 PM
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The Riverstone comes standard with the Goodyear H rated tires. Could you put the 17.5 on the Cedar Creek?
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02-03-2016, 04:19 PM
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The Riverstone comes standard with the Goodyear H rated tires. Could you put the 17.5 on the Cedar Creek?
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Everything that I've read says if it has 16" tires now, the 17.5" are just bolt off/bolt on solutions. And, that's what it was for my Sabre (I know it's not a Cedar Creek- but same concept).
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02-03-2016, 05:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ependydad
Everything that I've read says if it has 16" tires now, the 17.5" are just bolt off/bolt on solutions. And, that's what it was for my Sabre (I know it's not a Cedar Creek- but same concept).
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I don't understand bolt on/bolt off
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02-03-2016, 05:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim34RL
My 2016 34RL Cedar Creek had 17" Westlake tires and rims instilled from the factory. I had a slight issue with one tire that was losing air not sure if it was the tire, valve stem or rim. At the F.R.O.G. rally this was replaced by a new Westlake tire an rim by Forest River under warranty.
Once this was replaced in Aug, we left on a 5,000 mile trip out west. The tires have preformed flawlessly, I checked them every day and only had to re-inflated them when we where at 6,000 FT. I did have to lower the air pressure again when we returned to 600 FT again in Missouri. As of right now I have no intention of replacing them until they need to be replaced. I will than research what tire I want to install then. I may go with 17.5 inch tires and rims when the time comes.
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Are you sure about the 17" Tires? Seems odd size for a RV! Youroo!! 
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02-03-2016, 05:38 PM
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11 year CC owner. OE tires were LT 235 85R16. Lasted me 7 years. Installed same size Michelins and am completely happy. If you have 7K axles any 3042 load rated LT tire will be fine. If you have 8K axles wisest choice would be 17.5 tires and wheels with load ranges over 4000 pounds per tire.
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02-03-2016, 08:28 PM
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Specific tire info
*self-deleted, I didn't read the whole quoted post.
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02-03-2016, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by donniedu
11 year CC owner. OE tires were LT 235 85R16. Lasted me 7 years. Installed same size Michelins and am completely happy. If you have 7K axles any 3042 load rated LT tire will be fine. If you have 8K axles wisest choice would be 17.5 tires and wheels with load ranges over 4000 pounds per tire.
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I disagree. On 7,000 lbs. axles, a 3,042 tire will easily be overloaded.
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02-03-2016, 08:33 PM
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Quote:
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I don't understand bolt on/bolt off
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Sorry. You basically take the whole 16" rim/tire assembly and replace it with the 17.5" rim/tire assembly. The bolt pattern is the same. Though, you may need different lug nuts.
It's so simple, I could do it. (But didn't! as I was having work done anyway.)
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02-03-2016, 09:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ependydad
Sorry. You basically take the whole 16" rim/tire assembly and replace it with the 17.5" rim/tire assembly. The bolt pattern is the same. Though, you may need different lug nuts.
It's so simple, I could do it. (But didn't! as I was having work done anyway.)
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Ok, I see what you mean. I looked at what someone was saying about the 17.5 in tires and I'll probably do that one day. Not no time soon, the 17.5 could carry more weight, 4805lbs per tire. If I was going to get a bigger Cedar Creek I would definitely look at the 17.5 H rated tires. DW and I both like the 36CKTS and one day I'll order one, I'll just get the 17.5 from someone else and sell the O/E tires. Who knows by then they may come as a option.
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02-07-2016, 11:01 AM
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"Marabombs" is correct name for these. Previous TT I owned blew 3 of these and I actually chose 2 of these to replace 'baked and cracking' original China bombs on the sun exposed side of my Cedar Creek 5th wheel
Boom they went: 1 w/ 6,000 miles/ @ 1 year, and 2nd went Kapow at 8,000miles 2 months later.
Replaced w/ Heartland E rated RV(?) tires from Discount Tire dealer in Tyler I limped to w/ a chinabomb spare. Replaced 2 + the spare. Fingers crossed
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