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03-03-2017, 01:47 PM
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Street side rides 2" lower?
Our 2015 Cedar Creek has always been 2"" lower on street side than curb side. I've had it at several RV places to have work done and nobody can find a solution. It's not a huge deal but that 2" sometimes get it close to my pickup bed..
Anyone noticed there's being this way? We're heading to factory in April to get front and rear caps replaced, it would be nice if I could get them to look at it but I don't know if they will do it.
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03-03-2017, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dodge man
Our 2015 Cedar Creek has always been 2"" lower on street side than curb side. I've had it at several RV places to have work done and nobody can find a solution. It's not a huge deal but that 2" sometimes get it close to my pickup bed..
Anyone noticed there's being this way? We're heading to factory in April to get front and rear caps replaced, it would be nice if I could get them to look at it but I don't know if they will do it.
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Are the axles looking ok and the springs looking ok. It very well could just be how you distribute the load in the trailer and or where the fridge, and tanks are at.
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03-03-2017, 04:48 PM
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Street side rides low
When we got it home, before putting anything in, I noticed it lop-side and went back to Fun Town RV with it. They supposedly worked on it and said they had changed springs to larger capacity. Didn't ride any different. Another RV repair place adjusted the Correct Track system and said they had it fixed, only thing it did was cause front tires to be out of line and started wearing.
As best I can tell the axles are ok. All the appliances and kitchen storage are on that side so it carries more weight.
BTW, it's a 2015 CC 36 CKTS.
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03-08-2017, 09:27 PM
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Something is not right for it to be that lopsided.
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03-08-2017, 10:05 PM
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2" low
I'm sure something isn't right but have you got any ideas on what to look for or at?
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03-12-2017, 12:39 PM
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Street side sagging is really common on full slide units that have all the heavy items there. Especially on units that are marginally sprung. In other words the unit has a lower load carrying capacity and when loaded for travel the street side springs are at their limit. Grand Design Reflections are notorious for it. Stiffer springs are the only solution.
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03-12-2017, 12:46 PM
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Silly to crazy question, are the tires the same size?
There has to be a reason so simple everyone has looked right over it.
I'd crawl under it with a tape and measure every suspension part down to the last 1/8th inch.
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03-12-2017, 01:43 PM
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2" low
Yes, I've crawled under and measured still find body rides 2" lower on street side. Axles measures the same on both sides but body is lower. We have friends with a Heartland 5th wheel same everything as ours that rides level.
And yes the tires are the same size, but have had one shop recommend putting larger tires on that side to get body further away from truck bed.
Any ideas of what to do/check would be welcome.
Thanks for the responses and ideas. Great forum to find help.
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03-12-2017, 01:50 PM
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If the distance from the frame to the axles are the same and the distance from the body to the street measured between the axles are different I would have a lift kit installed on the side that is lower. If the distance from the frame to the axles are different I would have a spring company re-arch and add a leaf to bring the body to level. these are just my thoughts. My Class was sagging I re-arched and added a spring ran level after that.
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03-12-2017, 02:32 PM
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Why not take it to a scale and weigh each side? Not to keep bringing up Grand Design but those Reflection 5th wheels with the long street slides weigh 600-800lbs more than the curb side. Depending on which model you have it could even be 1000lbs more. Then load up a pantry and fridge and it'e even more.
I can't see any reason that the brand would make any difference. Any time you load one side up more than the other you will have some sag.
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03-12-2017, 03:07 PM
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Are the spring hangers all the same length from the frame to the bottom of the hanger?
If they are then perhaps longer ones can be added to the low side in order to make it level.
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03-30-2017, 07:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge man
Our 2015 Cedar Creek has always been 2"" lower on street side than curb side. I've had it at several RV places to have work done and nobody can find a solution. It's not a huge deal but that 2" sometimes get it close to my pickup bed..
Anyone noticed there's being this way? We're heading to factory in April to get front and rear caps replaced, it would be nice if I could get them to look at it but I don't know if they will do it.
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Our CKTS is lower in the curb side and we r heading to Indiana in May to get our front and back replaced due to oxidation issues!
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03-30-2017, 08:19 AM
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That is what correct track is suppose to fix. I would certainly involve the factory to correct the level problems.
When looking for a new trailer Grand Design was still using it on the Solitude but having some issues. Heartland discontinued use of it due to alignment issues, no dealer was equipped to correct it when it was required due to specialized tooling. We opted for Heartland and the MorRyde system with shocks and left the correct track and Grand Design off the list.
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03-30-2017, 08:52 AM
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I bet this isn't cheap, but looks like it would certainly solve your problem and would even be a vast improvement to a standard trailer suspension system that was in good working order.
Trailer Flex Air Suspension System replaces the leaf springs
Edit: Just finished article and looks to run $2900 for dual axle setups.
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03-30-2017, 09:23 AM
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Just to clarify, if one side is 2" lower than the other, it's really only sagging 1" from where "normal" would be. Basically like a teeter totter....lower 1 side 1" and it's a 2" difference in height from one side to the other.
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03-30-2017, 06:19 PM
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JustB Rad ... I don't think you clarified right. I don't think you can expect the opposite side to teeter totter. This isn't like checking alignment on spindles on milling machines and moving 1/2 of misalignment to be in total alignment.
B and B ... correct track concerns each axle being parallel to each other and their perpendicularity the frame ... not the ride height from side to side.
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03-30-2017, 06:45 PM
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I've read multiple stories of Grand Design fixing the same issue by upgrading from 7000 lb axles to 8000 lb axles. That of course also comes with heavier leafs.
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04-02-2017, 08:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge man
Our 2015 Cedar Creek has always been 2"" lower on street side than curb side. I've had it at several RV places to have work done and nobody can find a solution. It's not a huge deal but that 2" sometimes get it close to my pickup bed..
Anyone noticed there's being this way? We're heading to factory in April to get front and rear caps replaced, it would be nice if I could get them to look at it but I don't know if they will do it.
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Our 2015 cc silverback 37 BH is one and a quarter inch lower on the street side.The front levelers is also the same unhooked.Ours is from Fun Town Waco.I have checked measurements over and over,nothing to find.My guess is when CC builds these,they use the front pin for holding up the front,instead of landing gear and it has more weight on that side and it settles where it is.This is the only conclusion I can come up with.
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04-12-2017, 06:38 AM
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Just an update, was at factory yesterday for front and rear cap replace and asked about this issue.
Denise said that with all the cabinets and appliances on one side ,like these have , that they will ride lower on that side.
I'm going to talk with a spring shop when we get home about adding a leaf or re-arching to level it although I haven't had any problems with the way it is.
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04-12-2017, 08:30 AM
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That sounds legit, but wouldn't be acceptable in my book. Did they think that was ok?
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