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Old 09-24-2015, 10:02 AM   #1
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Upgrading from a 3 stepper to a 4 stepper

I have a 2016 Silverback 33IK that came with the Flexco manual 3 entry step assembly. Mid year models are coming out with the 4 steppers which are much more user friendly. I ordered the Flexco 4 stepper from ETrailer and swapped it out yesterday. It's a nice sturdy unit. You have to cut about 1.25" off the bottom of each mounting bracket under the entry door for the glide pin to clear, but otherwise it bolts right up to where the original came off. Boy Howdy is getting in and out better. I'll add photos ASAP.
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Old 09-24-2015, 10:42 AM   #2
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I've been considering moving up to a quad entry step. I'd love to see pictures of your install.
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Old 09-24-2015, 08:51 PM   #3
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Here's a couple of photos I took after dark ... weird how the main view turned out looking like it was resting on the ground. It isn't ... about 8" from bottom step to ground.

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Do you happen to know the measurement from ground to step mount in the cut-out?
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Old 09-24-2015, 09:17 PM   #5
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I'm not sure of your question. On my Silverback, the steps (although made by Flexco, the same OEM 3 step manufacturer) ... will not physically fit in the OEM mounts without trimming as I showed. The 4 steppers glide slot (seen in photo under pointer) is 1" closer to the top of the step assy. The OEM mounts must be trimmed away as shown for the steps to fit and also deploy. What measurement are you asking for again? Ground to bottom of the OEM mount where I cut off 1.25"?
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Let me try again.....steps mount to bottom of floor (in cut-out)....Need to know that measurement to ground to know if there's enough room on another type trailer to even be able to have ground clearance for last step?
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I'll measure tomorrow, but how about this
http://www.flexcoproducts.com/upload...ts/FP-4400.jpg
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That'll work...thanks.
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Old 09-25-2015, 12:05 PM   #9
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4 Step vice 3 Steps

DieselGuy, How did you cut the 1 1/4 out. What tool/method did you use to make the clean cut? Thanks
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Old 09-25-2015, 01:31 PM   #10
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DieselGuy, Great information. Thanks
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Old 09-25-2015, 11:52 PM   #12
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FYI. I asked for the upgrade at the Goshen Rally and thanks to George & Denise from Cedar Creek, we really like our new 4 steps. Yes, our 2016 Silverback 33IK we ordered and received this summer came with the 3 steps. We noticed that the 3 to 4 step was one of the changes in the new Silverbacks. Our 2016 just didn't get the new versions during production. We also have one the last Silverbacks with the bear decals.
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We purchased a 2015 Wildcat in April of 2014. 15 models were to have the 4 step entry, ours only had 3. Must have been near the 2014 to 2015 change over time. While at the 2014 Goshen Rally we ask for the 4 step entry since it was a 2015 model and that was done the following day, and of course, no charge.

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Old 09-29-2015, 09:48 PM   #14
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I still punch the ole time clock and am west of the Mississippi ... I would have burnt more diesel getting to the rally than just ordering it. Glad you guys got a free one on ole CC.
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FYI. I asked for the upgrade at the Goshen Rally and thanks to George & Denise from Cedar Creek, we really like our new 4 steps. Yes, our 2016 Silverback 33IK we ordered and received this summer came with the 3 steps. We noticed that the 3 to 4 step was one of the changes in the new Silverbacks. Our 2016 just didn't get the new versions during production. We also have one the last Silverbacks with the bear decals.

Hey, just FYI: We had similar experience ordering 2014 built as 2015. Brown (mocha) cap oxidized twice. JUST, 2 weeks ago, went to Goshen and had an Oyster Cap with 2016 logos put on. ( plus lots of issues fixed over 2 shop days). DENISE was/is T-RIFFIC!! We used a local factory recommended service center: RCI WAVE; near the fairgrounds....great people and super service.
Highly recommend them for repairs. List completed precisely on time and the commitment to QUALITY repair cannot be over stated. Tnx Anita; Scott and John!!
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I still punch the ole time clock and am west of the Mississippi ... I would have burnt more diesel getting to the rally than just ordering it. Glad you guys got a free one on ole CC.
Yep far more cheaper to just buy what ever.
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Old 10-05-2015, 10:14 AM   #17
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We liked the 4 steppers when on the level, but we have the 3 step. But there have been times where we have camped and the ground was not so level and our bottom step was very close to the ground. It seems if we had the 4 stepper it would not have room to deploy. Do they drop that much more closer to the ground or do they just shorten up the distance between steps, never really checked that closely to them. Do they drop lower to the ground or is it just optical illusion. If they just shorten up the steps they would really help the wife and her knees..
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I think the distance to the ground is maybe 2-3" less. Additionally the distance from the top step to the floor of your living area is also a few inches less. They have worked well for us so far. They must work overall as these are the same steps CC is putting on their mid year Silverbacks. These are rated at 300# and are noticably heavier. There is another company that makes these steps at a bit cheaper price. They are made in America, but they are built a bit lighter. Several replies up I posted a drawing of the steps with overall dimensions. Compare to your 3 steppers.
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Old 10-05-2015, 10:53 AM   #19
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Hmmmm may be an option for the future. I am liking our step anyways cause I am no light weight. I am down to 280 lbs lol lol.. These seem to be the most heavy weight steps we have ever had. They are very solid, no sag or flexing. Use to be scared to carry anything heavy up our steps on the old SOB, these not so much...
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... Do they drop that much more closer to the ground or do they just shorten up the distance between steps, never really checked that closely to them. Do they drop lower to the ground or is it just optical illusion. If they just shorten up the steps they would really help the wife and her knees..
Different models and mfg's do it differently. Some keep the 8" or 9" step height and just let the bottom step drop lower and some reduce the distance between the steps and drop the bottom step a little lower.
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