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Old 05-24-2013, 07:52 AM   #21
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Travel kinda light do you?
I'm wondering if I can get 14mpg after
we shed some tonnage? LOL
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:57 AM   #22
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200 DVD's
100 VHS Tapes
2 Computers
Printer
and a full set of Craftsmen mechanic tools for all those "Mods"
cast iron griddle.
2 cases of "nectar"
Full Chefs Ware kitchen.
Air compressor with 5 gal tank.
Enough cleaning supplies for an office building.
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This sounds so familiar. I had binders on the top of the Kitchen Cabinet with about 1000 DVDs in them. Just so in case any one wanted to see their favorite movie I would have it.

Now, the DVD collection has grown, but I convert them to MP4 videos and store them on my 3T USB hard drive. My former 200 pound DVD collection now has twice the movies and weighs about a pound.

The cast Iron griddle is gone, too.

Tools were scaled WAY back. I still carry enough for my "on the road" projects (always a list) and emergency repairs (roof on down).

Cleaning supplies limited now to routing maintenance.

Computers still play a large role in our lives, but they are also downsized. The 2 desktops are gone and replaced with a nice widescreen laptop, an iPad, and a MS Surface. The printer is still here, but much smaller and I also have a wireless router for internet connection sharing at locations that charge for internet access. (the laptop has 2 network cards - one for the inbound wireless net (external USB network card and mast mounted high DB omni-directional antenna and the internal one for the router).

The big weight ticket items now are still beverages (mine and the DW); two cases of homemade wine (one white - one red); a case of Limoncello; as well as a case of beer for guests who prefer beer; 1/2 gallon Gentleman Jack; and 1/2 gallon Jose Quervo Gold Margarita. The ice shaving machine does not weigh all that much but is a bit bulky (found a spot behind the sub-woofer).

DW is a soda drinker and she feels that since I seem to be running a bar, she can take a few fridge cases of soda along (to be fair, her brand is often hard to find).

As you can see, regular weight checks are a must for me. We run near max on the camper and at max on the truck's payload.

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Old 05-24-2013, 08:06 AM   #23
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What's your trailers dry weight with options?

If I understand your weights correctly the total wt of the trailer is 12,440+3,920 = 16,360 lbs. Your almost at your GVWR of 16,389.

Did you have fresh water or waste water in your tanks?

I've been planning on a 1,000 lbs of cargo for 2 people. Either I'm way off or you guys camp with a lot of ice and cold beer.
Sidney,
We had it trip configured + full water & h2o heater (which is never full to start with) black tanks ready w/ Geo Method but otherwise empty.

ULVW ? 12076 + about 700 (guessing on the options weight)
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Sidney,
We had it trip configured + full water & h2o heater (which is never full to start with) black tanks ready w/ Geo Method but otherwise empty.

ULVW ? 12076 + about 700 (guessing on the options weight)
The unloaded vehicle weight as it left the factory is on the yellow sticker.
Everything else is weight you or the dealer added since it left the plant.
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The big weight ticket items now are still beverages (mine and the DW); two cases of homemade wine (one white - one red); a case of Limoncello; as well as a case of beer for guests who prefer beer; 1/2 gallon Gentleman Jack; and 1/2 gallon Jose Quervo Gold Margarita.
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At least you have your priorities right! A case of Limoncello? Wow! One bottle lasts us for months and months. There's not too many people that even drink Limoncello. For us, it's a sipper after dinner drink for a special meal.
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At least you have your priorities right! A case of Limoncello? Wow! One bottle lasts us for months and months. There's not too many people that even drink Limoncello. For us, it's a sipper after dinner drink for a special meal.
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Old 05-26-2013, 07:30 AM   #27
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How about an RV biggest loser competition? we could all line up at the cat scales, weigh loaded, pull the junk out, have a yard sale, and then reweigh after the yard sale to see who won.
That would NOT work for me.I would buy more Crap at the yard sale,thus MORE weight. Youroo!!
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That would NOT work for me.I would buy more Crap at the yard sale,thus MORE weight. Youroo!!
Ain't that the truth!
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I had previously replied to Ependydad that the limit on pin weight should be in the 15-20% range. . . . well I stand corrected, both RVIA and Ford , my TV Mfgr, indicate that the pin weight should be in the range of 15% - 25% of the total trailer weight. I will still endeavor to reduce the pin weight (18% is the goal) in order to reduce the load stress on the (Lippert) chassis and hopefully extending the service life of same. Since most failures manifest themselves in the neck area any reduction in pin weight (plus overall weight) should reduce the chances of a failure in this critical area.

On the topic of Lemoncello, what source do you use to maintain an ample supply? Like the Lemon flavor and believe it makes the best down time beverage.

Travel safe & enjoy the ride. 4 days till wee hit the open road again . . . . woo hoo!
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LOL these posts are so funny. Safe packing is what we aim for. I am stocking the trailer and now after reading this I am back outside to unpack. Last year way under weights; got brave and started REALLY packing. Must remember we are camping; not moving out of the house. :0
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LOL these posts are so funny. Safe packing is what we aim for. I am stocking the trailer and now after reading this I am back outside to unpack. Last year way under weights; got brave and started REALLY packing. Must remember we are camping; not moving out of the house. :0
i like that, " camping, not moving out of the house" Travel safe.
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That's the problem. The last time we packed the Creek we were moving out of the house. Still had enough left over to fill a 10x20 storage locker.
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On the topic of Limoncello, what source do you use to maintain an ample supply? Like the Lemon flavor and believe it makes the best down time beverage.
I make it myself. See http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...llo-38887.html
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GVWR 13K WT 12610
GAWR F. 5250. Wt 5010
GAWR R. 9K. Wt 7600
GCWR 23500. Wt 25050
Pin wt 3920 (22.8%)
Axle 8K.
RF 3020, RR 2670, LF 3150, LR 3600. Total axle wt 12440 (77.2%)

TRLR Tire max 4805
TV Tire Max (dual) 2910
TV tire max (sgl) 3195

The two main issues are pin @ 3920 + hitch + cargo = w/in 500 of gross payload limit + 3% beyond nominal 20% hitch limit
GCWR is over limit
WOW, you're saying you had a 3920 lb pin weight? I can't say that I've seen a rig that heavy before.
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It is totally amazing the good stuff that can hide in a trailer. We just did a clean up on our trailer that has been on a permanent site since 2007.
It had 7 - four cubic foot boxes and three lawn trash bags of good stuff( my wife said junk) that had trickled into the trailer over these years.
Maybe now I can get it up the 12 % grade to the logging road.
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WOW, you're saying you had a 3920 lb pin weight? I can't say that I've seen a rig that heavy before.
Our RV diet reduced calculated pin weight to 3630 lbs with GVW of 15420 lbs. Pin is at 23.4% of the gross. Still to much in my book. This should improve some as we add an elect rear stabilizer @ 99.6 lbs. it will increase GVW but improves the weight on the pin slightly.
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Our RV diet reduced calculated pin weight to 3630 lbs with GVW of 15420 lbs. Pin is at 23.4% of the gross. Still to much in my book. This should improve some as we add an elect rear stabilizer @ 99.6 lbs. it will increase GVW but improves the weight on the pin slightly.
You will most likely still be "heavy on the pin" by design. You have a LOT of camper forward of the wheels. All that "forward storage" looks great on paper till you use it and find out you need a BEAST of a truck to carry it.
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You will most likely still be "heavy on the pin" by design. You have a LOT of camper forward of the wheels. All that "forward storage" looks great on paper till you use it and find out you need a BEAST of a truck to carry it.
Yea, in reality we are learning just how difficult weight shifting is. We are below design GCWR, GVWR, GAWR, & tire wt limits for both TV & 5er so I have to be satisfied w/ that.

Thanks for your insights & responses. Travel safe so that you will enjoy the journeys!
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