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06-01-2017, 03:13 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Near Dallas
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My advise to the OP:
There are opinions and there are facts. Manufacturer's numbers are facts, plain and simple. Sticker numbers on the trucks are how the manufacturer has decided to rate their products.
People's experiences, and conclusions derived from those experiences, are opinions and not facts. Some people, based on opinion or experience, will decide that they will rate the truck higher than the manufacturer because they have decided that their opinion is a better guide than the manufacturer's ratings. Only you can decide whether you are fact or opinion driven, and make a judgement call you are comfortable with.
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07-15-2017, 08:57 PM
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#42
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Virginia
Posts: 21
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See my signature. The 34RLTS GVWR comes in just under 14K. We went with the Andersen hitch. It weighs 50lbs. We just bought the trailer last month. The tow home on the Va interstate roads from Ashland Va was interesting to say the least, but, no white-knuckle experience. The 5er only had about a third tank of fresh water and full propane tanks. Nothing else on board. I was happy about how it felt towing. I did a lot of research for the truck. Weighed the manufacturer numbers and the opinions of users. I am comfortable with the decision about the tow vehicle. I look forward to many years with this rig.
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2007 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Classic CCSB, LBZ, Turbo Brake activated
2008 Cedar Creek 34RLTS, EezTire TPMS, GoodYear Endurance
Andersen Aluminum Ultimate 5th Wheel Connection 2
Tekonsha P3 Electronic Brake Control
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07-17-2017, 11:55 AM
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#43
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Suffolk, Va.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BOB3288
I am in the process of purchasing my first 5th wheel,after narrowing it down to a CC 36ck2 that i believe is quite popular,what vehicle are owners towning this with. I have a 2016 F250 that can 5th 15300.combined is 23500 oh and its diesel anyone see this to be a problem.Empty is 13075 pin is 2300 gross 16300 but if i only load it with 2300 lbs i think it will work .
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Being overweight is not an option in my opinion. My 2002 F-250 is rated for a 14,000 lb 5th wheel towing and it is a 7.3 Diesel. It would pull way more than that but the issue is stopping and especially towing in the mountains with brakes heating up. A huge liability if you injure someone being overweight. Being within weight is a must and having excess capacity is desirable.
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07-17-2017, 12:01 PM
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Insert witty title here
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: About 30 miles west of Beantown.
Posts: 4,034
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mwdilday
Being overweight is not an option in my opinion. My 2002 F-250 is rated for a 14,000 lb 5th wheel towing and it is a 7.3 Diesel. It would pull way more than that but the issue is stopping and especially towing in the mountains with brakes heating up. A huge liability if you injure someone being overweight. Being within weight is a must and having excess capacity is desirable.
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I bet if you looked at your truck's payload capacity and crunched the numbers, you can't tow anywhere near a 14000 lb 5er.
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2021 Chevy Silverado 2500HD LT 6.6L V8 Duramax
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07-17-2017, 12:04 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Suffolk, Va.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timfromma
I bet if you looked at your truck's payload capacity and crunched the numbers, you can't tow anywhere near a 14000 lb 5er.
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Probably not Timfromma. I had a travel trailer at 9,000 lbs behind it. Now I have a 2017 F-350 Dually with a CC Champagne 38EL on order. Would not want to push any truck to the limits. Margin = safety and I like safety.
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07-17-2017, 12:23 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 5,712
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donniedu
Lots of problems. First off the actual pin weight when you get it home is going to exceed your trucks CCC by at least 1000 pounds. For thst fiver you honestly need a dually.
Second, look again at your numbers. While that Ford might be able to TOW 15,000 pounds, there is just no way it will carry the pin weight of a 15K fiver.
Cedar Creeks are notorious for heavy pin weights. Heck, my 34CKTS with a 13,750 GVWR always runs with 3500 pounds pin on a 13,500 scaled weight.
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My neighbor has been pulling a 38' Montana for nine years now with a 2004 Silverado 2500HD 6.6L diesel. Did most of the NW two years ago without a single problem. Crossed the divide numerous times...I believe he's scaled in around 23,500, but don't quote me on that...I'll have to ask him tonight.
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07-17-2017, 06:18 PM
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Insert witty title here
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: About 30 miles west of Beantown.
Posts: 4,034
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWolfPaq82
My neighbor has been pulling a 38' Montana for nine years now with a 2004 Silverado 2500HD 6.6L diesel. Did most of the NW two years ago without a single problem. Crossed the divide numerous times...I believe he's scaled in around 23,500, but don't quote me on that...I'll have to ask him tonight.
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Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
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2021 Transcend Xplor 247BH
Husky WDH with Sway Control
2021 Chevy Silverado 2500HD LT 6.6L V8 Duramax
Forever in my memory. Forever in my heart.
Laurie J. Wood 3/22/67 - 8/23/19
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07-17-2017, 08:07 PM
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#48
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Suffolk, Va.
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The GCWR that I found on the internet (so it must be true) is 22,000 for the Silverado. That means they are 1,500 over. Hmmm. Not me!!! I guess all those years doing weight and balance in a Cessna taught me something after all. Never exceed vehicle specified weights.
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07-17-2017, 08:07 PM
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#49
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Suffolk, Va.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timfromma
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
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Yup
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