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Old 12-29-2014, 06:49 PM   #41
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If I'm not mistaken, when i put this thread up, I asked the question, what are people towing the 36ckts with. Why do we go in other directions when it has nothing to do with the subject.
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Old 12-29-2014, 07:18 PM   #42
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I think payload capacity and stability has everything to do with the subject
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Old 12-29-2014, 07:27 PM   #43
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I was only concerned that I need the dually because it will give me the recommended 20% allowance that I need for the heavier cedar creek 36ckts. I'm aware that the difference between the 3/4 and 1ton single wheel is minimal.
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Old 12-29-2014, 08:01 PM   #44
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I bought my 2014 CC, long box 6.7 cummings DRW Ram in July for roughly $35700 US. It was new, had 360kms on it, basic truck with air, tilt, cruise, power lock doors and tailgate, integrated tow brake and a few other items like plow prep package. Does not have the Aisian tranny, has a payload of 5793pds per the door sticker and can haul 18900 pd trailer.

be a great truck to haul that camper, I use it as a daily driver but do not put on a lot of miles a year, maybe 5k.
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:42 PM   #45
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You don't need a new dually to safely pull a new 36ckts. Trucks are at their best at their rated load. That means they handle properly and ride properly and are safe. Newer trucks are rated to haul more and newer trailers are bigger and lighter. The RV industry would love to make all trailers half ton towable; they'd sell a lot more. More truck than you need is a waste of money and a more uncomfortable ride. Been there, done that.
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Old 12-30-2014, 09:07 PM   #46
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Towing a 36CKTS with a 3/4 ton you have about 5000 lbs towing margin and 1000 lbs pin weight margin. Don't forget, your new truck is going have stability control, traction control, integrated , breaking control, exhaust brake, etc.
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Old 12-30-2014, 09:12 PM   #47
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If I'm not mistaken, when i put this thread up, I asked the question, what are people towing the 36ckts with. Why do we go in other directions when it has nothing to do with the subject.
While we, the members, do try to keep the feedback on topic going off track does happen. Someone will comment upon one thing and someone else will add to it and so on. (And truck topics are a popular subject to start with.)

Thanks for bringing the topic back on point.
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Old 12-31-2014, 08:42 AM   #48
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Are you going by the dry weight of the trailer? 36ckts has a max weight with cargo of 16,500. 3/4 and the 1 ton have a similar max tow at 17000. But maybe I am reading this wrong. I found it in the simple "Build and Price". How is this a 20% leeway. Again, maybe I am reading wrong. I also talked to the truck manager at Chevy, and also got the same answer. I researched through several forums. But again maybe I am figuring all wrong. But this seems to be a situation that can be argued based on pride and safety. I am done with this thread and I do appreciate your input. If you can give a web sight that says it is safe to pull the 36ckts with a 3/4 ton, please do. I am sure people will love that idea. Thanks again.
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Are you going by the dry weight of the trailer? 36ckts has a max weight with cargo of 16,500. 3/4 and the 1 ton have a similar max tow at 17000. But maybe I am reading this wrong. I found it in the simple "Build and Price". How is this a 20% leeway. Again, maybe I am reading wrong. I also talked to the truck manager at Chevy, and also got the same answer. I researched through several forums. But again maybe I am figuring all wrong. But this seems to be a situation that can be argued based on pride and safety. I am done with this thread and I do appreciate your input. If you can give a web sight that says it is safe to pull the 36ckts with a 3/4 ton, please do. I am sure people will love that idea. Thanks again.
towing is not the same as carrying! While a 2500, heck a properly equipped 1500 might tow 17K easily enough they certainally will not have sufficient load carrying capacity to allow one to drop 3500+ pounds in the bed of the truck. It aint rocket science. Trucks GVWR minus scaled ready to travel weight will give you the real world cargo carrying capacity.
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Are you going by the dry weight of the trailer? 36ckts has a max weight with cargo of 16,500. 3/4 and the 1 ton have a similar max tow at 17000. But maybe I am reading this wrong. I found it in the simple "Build and Price". How is this a 20% leeway. Again, maybe I am reading wrong. I also talked to the truck manager at Chevy, and also got the same answer. I researched through several forums. But again maybe I am figuring all wrong. But this seems to be a situation that can be argued based on pride and safety. I am done with this thread and I do appreciate your input. If you can give a web sight that says it is safe to pull the 36ckts with a 3/4 ton, please do. I am sure people will love that idea. Thanks again.
You need to look at the Gross axle weight rating on the rear axle. That is usually the limiting factor. I have a F250 and I am overweight on the rear axle with the 36CKTS.
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Old 02-01-2015, 04:28 PM   #51
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That's true....but you get alot of extra towing capacity when you upgrade to a dually which is why I'm going with that
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Old 02-01-2015, 06:56 PM   #52
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That's true....but you get alot of extra towing capacity when you upgrade to a dually which is why I'm going with that
Good choice.

It is hard to imagine having regrets about having too much payload capacity (pin weight + hitch + cargo) or too much towing capacity.

Depending on your brand choice, if you have a choice on axle ratio I would suggest 3.73 or 4.10 (Not 3.42 ).

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I have yet to hear anybody complain about too much truck, power or peace of mind when towing. A dually is a good choice. As far as who has the better truck, I don't think you can pick a bad one these days. Its all about who gives the better deal.
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I went to a single wheel 1 ton last year from having 1 ton dually for the past 14 years. Have been very happy with my 1 ton single wheel. Pulled a Keystone Everest then moved to the CC 38rd and has been pulling fine so far. Have not seen any stability issues.
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I was only concerned that I need the dually because it will give me the recommended 20% allowance that I need for the heavier cedar creek 36ckts. I'm aware that the difference between the 3/4 and 1ton single wheel is minimal.
Where is this ficticious 20% leeway rule written. I've bought several new trucks over the years. None of them ever stated a gross weight minus 20% on the weight sticker on the door post. This is the dumbest thing I ever heard. Does that mean that my Gross weight is 13,200# minus 20%...I don't think so. If it says 13,200# that's what the Engineers designed it to haul and that's what i feel safe piling on....I see no reason not to haul a 36CKTS with anything that has the load capacity to do the job, whether that's a 3/4, 1 ton single rear wheel or dually. If the truck manufacturer says it's good, it's good.....
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You seam a little angry. If you research you will find it.
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:38 AM   #57
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Total Bliss there is no rule about 20% of towing capacity. The 20% you are referring to is a suggestion from others...a safety factor. If the manufacture says the truck will pull 17k safely, it will pull 17k safely if properly equipped.

If you’re full timing and plan on moving around a lot, I think the dully is a good choice. However, an F-350 with the single tires could pull the camper if you don’t carry a lot of stuff with you and do it safely.
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:30 AM   #58
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This is not from others that I received this info, it is from an informational site for rvers, "changinggears.com" under "Tow Vehicle Sizing". Not the auto industry. I never referred to it as a rule, I referred to it as a recommendation. Safety is a choice. I don't make decisions based on rumors or other's experience. I base it on industry standards and recommendations. But thinking that I am just going to be ok is not ok for me. You can do whatever you want, that's what's nice about America.Happy Camping
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If you stay within the manufactures limits, you will be safe. The percentage you choose to stay under that is your choice. I don’t believe there is an “industry standard”.
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After seeing everyones setup in the past few years, my guess is that the “industry standard” is 20% the other way!
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