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Old 01-28-2011, 07:19 PM   #21
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one ton dually or more.
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Old 01-28-2011, 07:24 PM   #22
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you do not NEED a DRW to tow that 5th wheel as I have been towing the same size and weight 36RE for almost a year with my f250 6.4 and have not experienced any problems, highways, country roads, fast stops not a problem. If you can get a DRW in you r price range great, but if you can't the 250 6.4 or the new 2011 f250 will do just fine.
OMG, have you ever scaled your loaded combination? Tows fine has to be one of most foolish statements ever posted by anyone.
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Old 01-28-2011, 07:49 PM   #23
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OMG, have you ever scaled your loaded combination? Tows fine has to be one of most foolish statements ever posted by anyone.
If you ask me your like the person who doesn't actually know. I have a srw f350 that is 20% below any number. I hate truck crazy people that think you need a semi to pull a pop up. Your "you need a duely" comment is just plain un educated.
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Old 01-28-2011, 08:20 PM   #24
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That trailer ain't no popup and I bet ya after doing all his research, the OP will be pulling it with a DRW truck.
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Old 01-28-2011, 08:23 PM   #25
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i understand it isn't a pop up but there are so many people in this world under educated and just spout off you need a semi to move that son. If you look at my post I told the guy my F350 would pull it but if I could start over again I would get a dually. I just hate the flippant people who always try to scare people and drive them into trucks that are complete overkill
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Old 01-28-2011, 10:39 PM   #26
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How many posts have you seen who are asking if this is enough truck vs how many people ask if they might have too much truck? There is no such thing as too much truck. But there sure as heck is too little truck. BTW, I have done my home work and actually been across the scales more than once. So I for one DO KNOW what I am talking about. The OP has a fiver that has a 15,500 GVWR. Meaning that if his fiver is anywhere close to to what most are he will have a real world pin weight in excess of 3000 pounds and possible as much as 4000 pounds. That means that the OP could have a rear axle weight very close to 10,000 pounds. Does your SRW really have tires capable of that much weight on the rear axle?
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Old 01-29-2011, 08:02 AM   #27
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There is very little price difference to add a dually to a brand new truck..........I believe around 750 to 900 dollars..........so if you can afford it,why not add a dually. It all comes down to what you can afford. For this 5er the answer is yes a -2500 or higher SRW will pull it. but a 2500 or higher DRW would be much better! I have seen alot of people pulling a 5er that size with SRW 2500 or higher, they dont seem to have a problem pulling, but on the other hand would thier experience driving and safety be better with a dually, I dont see why not ! If you check the tow ratings for this weight on all the brands.....a 2500 or higher SRW will pull it, with the right rear end gear (4.10) And yes the tire ratings make a difference too. So if you buy used check the tires + rating because the previous owners may have swapped out the OEM tires for a lower rated tire because of the cost and they didnt pull a TT. Just my thoughts, I would really like a Semi to pull my TT but the DW said we didnt have a big enough money tree in the back yard !! So until then I'll keep watering that tree...Hay you never know !!
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Old 01-29-2011, 08:24 AM   #28
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There is a lot of "opinion" here that all has merit in an open forum. This is good. It will give you a broad spectrum of ideas and attitudes with which to make your own decision.

Only you can decide what level of safety, comfort, and fuel economy you are willing to accept. However you do "share the road." When you make a safety compromise it is not only you and your family you put at risk, it is also the motoring public and the highway safety folks who have to clean up the mess made on the highway from the "just do it" clan.

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has an awesome calculator that will give you some idea of how much truck pin you will need to carry on whatever you choose. A 15,000 pound camper will require a pin load of 20% plus or minus 5% for safe handling (this is not opinion it is fact easily verified). That is a lot of pin weight for a 3/4 ton SW even at the 15% load factor.

With a 15,000 pound camper you will be safer with a truck capable of handling that load plus your family and "truck stuff" without exceeding ITS maximum gross vehicle weight. Being under the truck's GVW allows you to not only PULL its rated 5th wheel load, but stop it as well. Remember that there is also a maximum combined weight rating to consider; although most likely you will max out the truck before you max out the camper or the combined numbers.
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Dam it Lou !! Your always so sensable....cant spell and I dont think thats a word. Well anyway, I bow to you ! Thats what I was trying to say in my own little world !!
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Old 01-29-2011, 08:56 AM   #30
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Johnny,

I agree with your last post. This case is different than most though in that the OP is buying a GIANT fiver. You hear a lot people complain about not enough truck, but you never hear anyone complain of having too much truck.

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Dam it Lou !! Your always so sensable....cant spell and I dont think thats a word. Well anyway, I bow to you ! Thats what I was trying to say in my own little world !!
Thank you Dave. While always a "touchy subject" towing seems to generate the most "action" of any thread subject. I don't care whether you buy a Ford, Dodge, Chevy, or International; I do care that you stay safe and keep coming back to the forum!

Frame cracks are no joke. They are hard to spot at the used car lots (they are typically covered with goop so they are harder to see). Overloaded trucks are routinely sold early so use a great deal of caution when shopping for that "cherry" late model 1500 or 2500 pickup.
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Old 02-04-2011, 11:35 AM   #32
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imho regardles of truck/suv im of the mind that its ALWAYS better to have more truck than your trailer needs. also im of the mind that you buy the trailer that fits your trucks not the truck that fits your trailer. the trailer is disposable the truck and its drivers/passengers are not!
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Old 02-09-2011, 09:15 PM   #33
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i personally wouldn't by an 03 or 04 6.0, they fixed some issues in 05 that make those better
WELL NOW
MY 04 6.0 PSD HAS 167000 MILES AND I WOULD DRIVE IT CROSS COUNTRY TOMORROW
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Old 02-11-2011, 02:47 PM   #34
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We have the 36RD5S, have had it since Oct 2008. We have both a Ford F350 7.3 (Chipped, changed intake to K&N, exhaust reworked) dually and Dodge 3500 6.7 (stock) dually, (Love the Jack Brake, it does save pad wear). Ford has 105 gal transfer tank, Dodge has 98 gal transfer tank. Pulled it with both, have scaled both and both are under load limits, (we are full time, and are at the very top of the weight limit on the 5th wheel. Actually, we were 1100 pounds overweight last year when we traveled north to the factory, had to remove some stuff).
I would suggest the dually, just for load stability on the road, have used single rear wheel 1 ton, and you can feel the difference in ride and control.
Both the trucks I have, have Firestone ride-rite air suspension and 22K hitch, (DO NOT scrimp on the hitch).
With the ride-rite, you can level the TV and 5th wheel, this makes all the difference in the world. I see many, way to many, RV's going down the road not level, ie TV overloaded and I do not understand why people rusk the possible problems that can come up, not to mention the problems it causes to the TV. Also, both our trucks are 2 wheel drive. We looked at 4 wheel drive, it may add some to towing and/or offroad driving, but we are paved road travelers only, and decided the 4 wheel drive was not worth the expense and maintenance to have it.
I will say this, the Ford has a better ride not towing, the Dodge has the better suspension, but with the ride-rite at 20 pounds, it does ride better not towing. Towing, the Dodge feels better and smoother than the Ford. We have traveled from Canada to Texas, many times, mountains and plains with both trucks and this 5th wheel. The Ford has struggled on the Tennessee mountains, Dodge does not. Fuel mileage avg (120 gal fuel, 1084 with Ford, 1632 with Dodge): Ford 9 mph, Dodge 13+, same roads, equals better than 500 miles per 120 gal of fuel (my on board totals = 138 gal Ford, 136 gal Dodge). I do add Diesel Kleen in both, seems to work better in the Dodge.
One reason we when with 350/3500 and not 450/4500, is the overall height to get into the truck, both are about 4-6 inch higher, old knees and bodies don't bend well!

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Old 04-15-2011, 04:10 PM   #35
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I just, 3 weeks ago, bought a 2011, 250 diesel, 4 door, long bed and it is rated at 16K, but I would not pull what you are talking about with my new truck, you will be better off with a 450 for that much weight.
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Old 04-15-2011, 08:39 PM   #36
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More truck than what you need has always worked very well for me. I still do +/- 10mpg at 46,000 lbs fully loaded with 2 ATV's, 500 gallons of fresh water, 50 gallons of gas in the fueling station for the ATV's and genset, 250 gallons of diesel in the truck tanks and towing the Jeep. By the way, I also have a Chev 3500 dually Duramax, it pulled the trailer great, it was pretty tough stopping it in the mountains though.
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Bear,

While reading through these posts I was thinking about your set-up long before the discussion got heated... was wondering if you were still around this forum.
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Still kicking around. Planning a trip through the rockys in late may to do some ATV'ing and Jeeping and metal detecting in a bunch of old mining sites and a few ghost towns deep in the mountains. We were going to head to Moab this spring to do some Jeeping and sight seeing but I had some medical issues this winter and I cannot buy medical insurance for the US for 12 months, so we will stay north of the border this year enjoying Crowsnest Pass, Banff, Jasper and Rocky Mountain House area.
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I have a new 36RE, and pull it with a Dodge ram 2500HD. The trailer has the same specs as listed above (39'- 2400 tongue weight, 12,400,etc. We have pulled it across the U.S and back across canada last summer, and no issues at anytime. The ram has the 6.7 Cummins diesel. No problems on any roads, mountains or prairies.We pulled a 30' travel trailer before that, and most times you could hardly tell you had a trailer behind you.
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