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Old 01-22-2011, 11:36 PM   #1
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Question Which truck do I need for towing?

I am new to the 5th wheel world so this has been a learning experience for me. I was wondering in your opinion which truck would be best for towing the cedar creek 36rd5s???? The unloaded vehicle weight is 12,400 and the gvwr is 15,500. The trailer is 39ft. I currently have a 1500HD which has a tow rating of 10,300 and it has 3,000 pound suspension springs 6.0 engine and 4.10 gear ratio. I was looking for a ford 350 or a chevy 3500 and I noticed that the f350 only have a tow rating of 9,000 pounds. I need some ideas on which trucks to look for that have a high tow rating. Thanks for all your help
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Old 01-23-2011, 12:22 AM   #2
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I'm a personal fan of the Dodge Cummins 2500 or 3500 and I believe you can get either of them in a dually format if needed. My personal recommendation for anyone considering this model would be to look into the '04.5-'07, not including the '07.5's. The 325hp/610tq 5.9L engine was introduced in those years, lower hp/tq in the older models (same engine and Liter) and more hp/tq in the newer 6.7L, however the newer ones (2007.5 and above) introduced the new EGR exhaust setup and I read that many are having problems with fuel mileage and turbo chargers. Although a 6-speed automatic would have it's benefits. Here's a couple of links for references if you're curious:

Dodge Ram - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum

Good luck on your search.

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Old 01-23-2011, 12:23 AM   #3
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That can't be the correct figure for the F350. The F150 is rated higher than that.
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Old 01-23-2011, 07:52 AM   #4
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the numbers seem low to me also for the 350. i have a 2002 and if i remember correctly, my tow weight (capacity) is 12000 or a little more. the truck will run abt 6500 lbs and that was subtracted from the CGVW rating to get the 12000. in 2002, the chevorlet duely had a CGVW rating which was higher than the ford by something like 2000 lbs.
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Old 01-23-2011, 07:58 AM   #5
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I have a Ford '09 towing guide and the F-350 is rated at 9,000 if it is a crew cab, SRW, 4x2, 5.4 V-8. I would think with a 5'er that size you would need the diesel which with the same options is rated at 14,900. Go with DRW, 4x2 and the tow rating is 15,100.
The newer ones may be rated higher.
With the weights you posted you may want to look at an F-450. Ratings for a crew cab, DRW, 4x2, diesel is 17,000.
Again this is an '09 towing guide and the newer ones may be rated higher.
Hope this helps.
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You can get up to 24,000 lb for 5th wheel towing with the 2011 F450; https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/...%20Pickups.pdf
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I suggest you go with a 1 ton dually Diesel for that size trailer. If new a Ford 2011 F-350 4X2 Crew Cab 5er towing rate is 15,700 w/3.73 Axle. Payload is 4,901lbs and GVWR is 12,600. If a Chevy or GMC is similar for 2011 models. If new or looking at older models the Internet has towing info for any make/model. DO NOT USE DRY PIN WEIGHT, and DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING ANY SALESMAN TELLS YOU! Do your own reaserch to mate the TV with the trailer. By the way as you see by my sig, I have a 2007 6.7L Dodge and she is great. Yes early on there were problems with turbos and the new emmisions stuff, but this Dodge engine has been in service now for 4.5 years and still going strong. As with any used vehicle, just make sure you know the history and don't buy a lemon. Good Luck.
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You NEED a diesel and DWR to pull that load. If you are buying new I would pick the the 2011 Ford or the 2011 GM Duramax and if you are buying used I would pick the Duramax.

As others have said the F450 would be even a better option.
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I agree with above. I would not tow that big thing with anything less than a F-350/3500. But I would personally go with a F-450. That's what it was made for. Do yourself a favor and do it right the first time. Don't skimp on the motor...get the diesel. You will not regret it.
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12400/15500.........

That's 1 ton + territory.

Don't bother looking at anything less if you plan to tow it anywhere on the highway.
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