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Old 03-12-2015, 08:15 AM   #21
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Just a word of caution. Don't be making any decisions until you have located all connections, wiring etc including getting on the roof and putting an eyeball on that label. I don't believe the location for the antennae will be forward of the front a/c. We have different units but not that much difference, my is 36 CKTS. On mine the hole with the label was not by the hole where the cables were that connected to the control box. The label on the roof was about even with the entry door and on the left half of the roof. Where mine hooked up to the control box was several feet away and the opposite side of the trailer. I think when you are able to get on the roof you will find your label in a similar location. That hole in the closet is probably where the cable for you control box will be located. Under the label in the roof will be 2 coax cables, they go one each to your TV's and a controller cable that comes out probably in your closed where the control box will go. There will a cable that comes with your dish that is the same as the one in the roof so save it or toss it you wont need it. If you check my profile for previous post back in late April I posted some diagrams from Cedar Creek for the wiring also I included some picture of what the hookups in your living room cabinet should look like. These have to be in the correct order or no reception. I've included a link below if it works. Its really easy just don't start till you get an eyeball on the whole layout and walk through it a couple times.

Cedar Creek Pre-Wire for Winegard Traveler
One of my biggest questions was about the 'Data' wire on the roof. Looking at my 33IK I think the Winegard Trav'ler dish will have to go in front of the rear A/C unit. I am hoping the wires (data & coax) are long enough to reach that location. My FW is in the shop so I can't go out and look at it, I hope to have it back today or tomorrow. I didn't have much if a change to look at the inside wiring before taking it to the shop, but with the help of wanderer69 diagrams & photos this hook-up should not be much of a problem. My 33Ik did come with the Dish 211z receiver installed under the living room TV. I'm hoping the only thing I need to do 'Is mount the Trav'ler' on the roof and hook-up the control box in the bed room....... Piece of Cake.. RIGHT! Not so fast.......... the way my luck has been going the last couple of week that is a BIG question "MARK":signhavef un:
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Old 03-12-2015, 09:08 AM   #22
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I did not want to mention this diagram until I could find it but this should help explain what is going on with the wiring. This picture show the color codes as well and paints the picture for what I was describing. I thought I had it at home but it was in my RV. This did not come with my RV however I obtained it from a dealer several years ago.

I also have the diagram for the over the air/cable wiring if anyone needs it.
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could you post that "air/cable wiring" diagram????
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Old 03-12-2015, 10:22 AM   #23
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Here are pics of two different installations. The first is the Trav'ler on an XLR roof where there was tons of room. I ran the cables forward to come through the roof over the TV. The XLR was NOT pre-wired for a Trav'ler.

The second two pics are the installation on a SilverBack 29RE with pre-wiring. As it says in the Trav'ler installation manual, you need 25x42 inches of clearance and 8" from arm to roof. The only thing we have to do is ensure the roof vents are closed when the Trav'ler is going up or coming down.

I chose to encase the cables in plastic conduit as shown. That conduit is easy to find at any hardware store.

Hope the pics give you a better idea on your installation.
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Old 03-12-2015, 10:25 AM   #24
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When stowed, the Trav'ler is 9 3/4 inches high. That is most likely shorter than your AC unit -- it certainly is on my RV.
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:19 AM   #25
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The second two pics are the installation on a SilverBack 29RE with pre-wiring. As it says in the Trav'ler installation manual, you need 25x42 inches of clearance and 8" from arm to roof. The only thing we have to do is ensure the roof vents are closed when the Trav'ler is going up or coming down.
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Do you recall how lone the "data & coax cable" coming out of the roof were? I think I'll need about 8 or 10 feet of cable.
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Yes, the decal where the wiring should be is above the door, right side of centerline. It looks like my install will be in front right of the fantastic fan, but I need to measure clearances. It may look like pics 2 and 3 above.

I'd like to find a spot where fan lid up or down won't interfere, because...you know.
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Old 03-12-2015, 12:15 PM   #27
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Do you recall how lone the "data & coax cable" coming out of the roof were? I think I'll need about 8 or 10 feet of cable.
I didn't pull the cable out as far as it would go so I can't answer the question. You can see from the last pic that the coax & data cable were at least 3 feet from the pre-wired hole and there was more available. My gut tells me you won't get 8-10 feet of wire, but that's just a guess.

It's relatively easy to go on the roof and check how much cable you'll have. Just open the pre-wire spot, fish out the cable and measure it. Then replace and cover with some tape. Then you'll know if you need to look for a closer installation spot.

Another possible option would be to use the data cable that came with your Trav'ler and connect it to the one out of your roof. I don't know if you'd be able to find a connector or if you'd have to cut and splice wires (yech).

I found a contact for Winegard on another forum. His name is Andy Crowner (email: acrow@winegard.com). That was from 2009 so he may have moved on by now. But you could try to ask him the question if he's still there.
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Yes, the decal where the wiring should be is above the door, right side of centerline. It looks like my install will be in front right of the fantastic fan, but I need to measure clearances. It may look like pics 2 and 3 above.

I'd like to find a spot where fan lid up or down won't interfere, because...you know.
The Trav'ler only moves at initial power on and when you retract it. There's no concerns about it moving & hitting your open vents otherwise. I just verify the vents are closed prior to operating. You could hang yourself a note by the control box if that would help...
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Do you recall how lone the "data & coax cable" coming out of the roof were? I think I'll need about 8 or 10 feet of cable.
The data cable and 2 coax were approximately 3 feet long. That length came out easily, and I didn't tug any harder. All 3 were taped together in a bundle.

There is not going to be much flexibility in where to mount the dish. The distance between the shower skylight and the kitchen Fantastic Fan is 45". Dish needs 44" when down. Too far to the left will interfere with the crank-up antenna, and wiring won't reach.

The wire hole in the roof will keep me from going too far right. It's about center between the roof centerline and edge.
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After looking at this photo again that danno2u posted for a Trav'ler he mounted on a Silverback 29RE. I can see that I should be able to place my Trav'ler in the same location behind the vent from the bathroom on my 33IK. The first time I read the installation instructions I thought I needed 36" around the antenna mount base. Now I understand that that is not the case .... 36" is only for something that is as tall as the dish when it is in the raised position, not something like the cover on the bathroom vent.
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