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Old 03-09-2013, 08:46 AM   #1
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Changing out std DVD player for Bluray

I’ll post this in the Tech section of the iRV II forms as well, but since there are some experienced folks in this group I thought I might get some help here.

I want to replace the DVD player that came with the Coach. It is a standard DVD; I want a Bluray player since most of my recent collection is Bluray and the coach TVs are all HD.

The problem. The current DVD player has speaker wire receptacles for the theatre sound speakers. So each of the five speakers has two wires run to the cabinet. With a half inch of insulation stripped, they fit into the receptacles at the back of the player.

The Bluray players I’ve looked at have connectors like RCA plugs, or no wire connectors at all since the manufacturer expects you to connect through an amp. The problem may be more difficult since the original DVD player may also be an amp. I don’t think the Bluray players I’ve seen include the amp function.

Any advice or suggestions?


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Old 03-09-2013, 08:54 AM   #2
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You'll need to purchase a Home Theatre Bluray Player so the speaker terminals will be there. Chances are you'll get new speakers along with the system that you won't need, but I don't think the players are sold seperately for Home Theatre Systems.

http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keyw...ater%20systems

Just an example of what I'm talking about.
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BluRay players with RCA plug outputs are "Component" connections.

Routing the Red and White (audio) outputs to your existing surround sound line level inputs and the Green Blue and Yellow RCA (video) outputs to your TV is the way to go. If your TV has HDMI only input; then there are Compontent to HDMI converters that are very inexpensive.

http://www.overstock.com/Electronics...130309142405:s

WAY cheaper and "movable" to other TVs in the coach.
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I like the Sony BDV_E390, but don't know how well that does as a replacement for what you have.
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BluRay players with RCA plug outputs are "Component" connections.

Routing the Red and White (audio) outputs to your existing surround sound line level inputs and the Green Blue and Yellow RCA (video) outputs to your TV is the way to go. If your TV has HDMI only input; then there are Compontent to HDMI converters that are very inexpensive.

http://www.overstock.com/Electronics...130309142405:s

WAY cheaper and "movable" to other TVs in the coach.
Using the red & white audio leaves you without surround-sound. Also, I imagine it's hard to find a bluray player without an HDMI output now.
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Using the red & white audio leaves you without surround-sound. Also, I imagine it's hard to find a bluray player without an HDMI output now.
I do not believe this is true.
The Surround 5.1 and Dolby signals "ride" on the red and white RCA line level signals. They are extracted by the surround amp.
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Sorry Lou, but I really don't think so. I'd love to see a reference if you can find one. There is a lot of information here that may help. The sub-article about "5 ways to connect..." may help most.

Edit: It occurs to me that you may be thinking of something like Dolby Pro-Logic which artificially creates 5 channels of sound from two-channel audio. This is a purely artificial process and doesn't make use of the original source's raw audio (other than two the stereo channels).
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I’ll post this in the Tech section of the iRV II forms as well, but since there are some experienced folks in this group I thought I might get some help here.

I want to replace the DVD player that came with the Coach. It is a standard DVD; I want a Bluray player since most of my recent collection is Bluray and the coach TVs are all HD.

The problem. The current DVD player has speaker wire receptacles for the theatre sound speakers. So each of the five speakers has two wires run to the cabinet. With a half inch of insulation stripped, they fit into the receptacles at the back of the player.

The Bluray players I’ve looked at have connectors like RCA plugs, or no wire connectors at all since the manufacturer expects you to connect through an amp. The problem may be more difficult since the original DVD player may also be an amp. I don’t think the Bluray players I’ve seen include the amp function.

Any advice or suggestions?

Gary
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I have an Insignia Brand (Best Buy House brand) at home. It has a digital output which is optical fiber and a coax out which is digital signal using electrical signal. Most surround sound systems have a digital and coax input. Since I have a coach like yours I will check the surround sound amp to see if Coachmen put in one with a digital input. If they did you are in good shape and can use either the optical or coax digital signal to hook up. By the way the Insignia brand is manufactured by Samsung.

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I’ll post this in the Tech section of the iRV II forms as well, but since there are some experienced folks in this group I thought I might get some help here.

I want to replace the DVD player that came with the Coach. It is a standard DVD; I want a Bluray player since most of my recent collection is Bluray and the coach TVs are all HD.

The problem. The current DVD player has speaker wire receptacles for the theatre sound speakers. So each of the five speakers has two wires run to the cabinet. With a half inch of insulation stripped, they fit into the receptacles at the back of the player.

The Bluray players I’ve looked at have connectors like RCA plugs, or no wire connectors at all since the manufacturer expects you to connect through an amp. The problem may be more difficult since the original DVD player may also be an amp. I don’t think the Bluray players I’ve seen include the amp function.

Any advice or suggestions?

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Did a double check on some facts. Red and White audio cables do not carry the 5.1 surround signal. They use a common ground and only carry the left and right audio. HDMI will carry the video as well as well as the 5.1 signal. Also as I mentioned in the previous post, the digital (optical) fiber and the Orange Coax carry the 5.1 signal. As it;s a bit late I will check the Encounter surround device to see if it will accomodate fiber/coax/HDMI input. For your bedroom unit you could put in a smaller bluray player and just hook up the HDMI cable.

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I’ll post this in the Tech section of the iRV II forms as well, but since there are some experienced folks in this group I thought I might get some help here.

I want to replace the DVD player that came with the Coach. It is a standard DVD; I want a Bluray player since most of my recent collection is Bluray and the coach TVs are all HD.

The problem. The current DVD player has speaker wire receptacles for the theatre sound speakers. So each of the five speakers has two wires run to the cabinet. With a half inch of insulation stripped, they fit into the receptacles at the back of the player.

The Bluray players I’ve looked at have connectors like RCA plugs, or no wire connectors at all since the manufacturer expects you to connect through an amp. The problem may be more difficult since the original DVD player may also be an amp. I don’t think the Bluray players I’ve seen include the amp function.

Any advice or suggestions?

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Gary,
A surround signal 5.1, 6.1 etc is digital. The red and white cables are analog and can not carry the digital signal. There are some systems that will simulate a surroud signal but it is not the same. If anybody wants a real good explanation of the various sound types go to this web site...warning take two asprin first:
http://www.circuitstoday.com/multi-c...-sound-systems
It also has pictures for illustrative purposes...Happy reading!

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