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Old 02-26-2015, 01:09 PM   #11
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Bottom line is if you are planning to tow anything, the Ford engine and especially transmission is your best option.
Ford has a better trany than the Allision? Don't think so.

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Old 02-26-2015, 01:22 PM   #13
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You're not going to go wrong with either combo. With that said, I have had two MHs on the C4500 chasis with the 6.0L. The Chevy has more leg room, the Ford has a bigger doghouse, make sure the DW checks out the pass. side leg room. My wife is ~5' and complained about the room around her feet.
I like the 6 speed trany and engine combo, very smooth and cruises at a lower/quieter rpm, according to what my brother in law noted who owns a similar size with the Ford V10.
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chevy I had a 3/4 ford and now have a 3500 dw and the chevy has it all over the ford
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Old 02-26-2015, 02:25 PM   #15
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Ford has a better trany than the Allision? Don't think so.
I wasn't aware that Chevy used the Allison except behind the DMax??????
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I wasn't aware that Chevy used the Allison except behind the DMax??????
Currently they dont.
DMax is the only engine backed by an allison.
Other than the 8.1 which is no longer an option.

6L90 is the current trans I believe.
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Originally Posted by mike.t View Post
Ford has a better trany than the Allision? Don't think so.
I've never seen or heard of GM putting an Allison transmission behind its 6.0L gas engine. wyo700 agrees.

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And the 6.0 does not come with the Allison trans only the duramax. Many people get confused by this because it's a six speed and they automatically thinks it's the Allison buts it's not. Kinda how everyone thought when GM released the 8.1 liter back in 2001 everyone thought it was the famous 502ci but it was not.
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We are ready to pull the plug today on a Freelander 27QB, but are unsure whether to go with the Chevy 4500 or Ford E350 engine. As I understand it the Chevy has more horses and the Ford has more torque. The Ford is also $2k more expensive.

We aren't the most mechanically shrewd folks on the block, so don't really know how to look at the hp vs torque thing. We will be going on mainly 1-2 week trips, with a longer 1 or 2 lasting a month, each year, perhaps 12k miles all together. We would also like to go to Alaska in a couple years. We will be towing an HHR behind the RV.

Any thoughts on the engine choice especially, and Freelander 27QB in general, would be greatly appreciated.


Here's the thing to remember. Torque is what moves things, HP is more like bragging rights making people think that more horsepower is better. What makes a difference is torque and at what RPM it comes to play. The best Torque comes from diesel engines that have a flat torque curve meaning they have close to the same torque from low to higher RPM's. When it comes to 1/2 ton pickups, fords twin turbo 6 has a flat torque curve from 1500 rpms to around 5,000. Most V*8's start out low and peak at around 3000 rpms on up so they will search the gears more trying to go uphill. They all make good trucks, personal preference is what seals the deal. Do your homework on what you are pulling and how much torque you need to pull it. Skip the horsepower war, it means nothing.
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Too bad the RAM 6.7 L Cummins isn't available, that torque will haul anything. The HHR weights just under 3,500LBS wet. I tow a 5,000 car/trailer and went with the Ford V10. For hauling heavy loads, look at the HP to Torque ratio of either the Chrysler, Ford, or Chevy Diesel trucks that people haul heavy 5th-wheel trailers with (some are over 10,000LBS). On the average, they have twice the torque as HP (i.e. last I knew the RAM was 385HP and nearly 900LBS torque).
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