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Old 03-27-2013, 07:26 AM   #1
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DISH Tailgater on the way...

Well, I took the plunge! Ordered a DISH Tailgater and am now eagerly awaiting its arrival. Since we're part-time vacation travelers, I thought this would be a good choice for us. Now I can basically sit in the middle of a field and watch TV all day long!

It comes with the satellite antenna which plugs directly into one receiver. I'm hoping that the Encounter is set up so that it will be distributed to both the living room and bedroom TVs when I connect it to the coach's satellite hook up. (I have a thread going on another forum about this as well). Won't know until I know, I guess.

If not, I may end up having to wirelessly stream the signal to bedroom and also to portable external TV, in addition to my living room TV. We have 3 TVs and I'm hoping to change the channel from wherever I am around the coach too. Currently looking at a few solutions for that scenario too...

Will keep posted about my progress in case anyone else does this at some point. And, if anyone else has any advice here for me, fire away!
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:04 AM   #2
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Congrats. I've been through my TV adventure and have it sorted out but went a different way so may not be of any help.

I'm sure you'll enjoy your new set up.

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I'm assuming you're also using the receiver that comes with the Tailgater package (211)?

If so, what I recommend is that you use the modulator output (coax) on the receiver and connect that (perhaps thru an A/B switch) to the same place that your "cable" input terminates in the coach. This would then distribute the Sat output to all the TVs. The trouble with that approach is that the modulator output is not HD.
(You can drive the main TV with the HDMI output of the receiver.)

Others buy a separate modulator and drive that with the component or HDMI output from the receiver. That may get you HD at the other TVs.

While Dish does provide RF remotes for some receivers, I don't think the 211 is one of those, so I don't see how you'll have remote control in remote places.

I can see that you enjoy a challenge however, so enjoy!
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I connected my Tailgater yesterday to test it out on the RV. I am only interested in TV in the living room, so will not face the wiring problems that others with multiple TV distribution will face. I simply added a HDMI cable from the Receiver to the TV.

I also did some testing on signal strength. I measured the signal strength when the Satellite Receiver was connected via the OEM internal coax that runs from the Slideout TV area to the left rear "Sat/Cable" connection on the RV. I then connected the Receiver directly to the Tailgater bypassing the RV internal wiring. I found a 3 to 5 increase in signal strength bypassing the RV internal wiring.

Since the TV Cabinet is in the Slideout, I installed a new coax connection in the Slideout wall right next to the AC Receptacle and BBQ LP connections. Now I have a much shorter run of coax to the Tailgater with improved signal strength.

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Old 03-27-2013, 11:14 AM   #5
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I hope you know that all the tv's you hook up to the tailgater will have the same as what ever is on your 1st tv.
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I'm assuming you're also using the receiver that comes with the Tailgater package (211)?

If so, what I recommend is that you use the modulator output (coax) on the receiver and connect that (perhaps thru an A/B switch) to the same place that your "cable" input terminates in the coach. This would then distribute the Sat output to all the TVs. The trouble with that approach is that the modulator output is not HD.
(You can drive the main TV with the HDMI output of the receiver.)

Others buy a separate modulator and drive that with the component or HDMI output from the receiver. That may get you HD at the other TVs.

While Dish does provide RF remotes for some receivers, I don't think the 211 is one of those, so I don't see how you'll have remote control in remote places.

I can see that you enjoy a challenge however, so enjoy!
I ended up running HDMI cable from my Direct TV HD reciever, to a powered distribution panel and from there to the other (3) TVs.

The bedroom TV had the longest run but it has a fine HD picture, no problem apparently.

It is true, whatever channel the reciever is set to is the channel all 4 TVs will have except:

1) If you power up your local antenna and switch a remote TV to antenna (source) you can watch a local channel independent of the sat reciever; or

2) You can watch a prerecorded (on the DVR) program on the main TV and a live sat channel on the other TVs. or

3) You can watch a DVD on any TV with a player while watching a live channel on other sets, provided you have more than one DVD player.

That's how it works for us anyway.

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Old 03-27-2013, 08:06 PM   #7
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Very, very helpful feedback from everyone! Thank you!!

The Dish receiver for the Tailgater is a 211k. No inherent DVR functionality, but you can get that with an external hard drive if you wanted to go that route (we're not since this is just a part-time thing for us).

Completely understand that one TV show will be broadcast on multiple TVs. Since the Tailgater only works with a single box, I want to be able to have the physical box be located in my living room entertainment center, but be able to "control" it also from the bedroom TV (if I'm laying in bed at night flipping through the channels). Same deal with being outside watching our portable TV - want to change the channels from out there too.

Here is one of the things I'm considering (if needed) to be able to do all this. This particular solution would potentially come into play if (when I plug everything into the coach), the TV signal doesn't get distributed to my other two TVs. Pricey, but worth it if it works:

Amazon.com: Actiontec My Wireless TV WiFi / HDMI Multi-Room Wireless HD Video Kit: Electronics


My best case scenario (I plug everything into the coach and I can see the same show on all my TVs), still leaves me with the "how-do-I-change-the-channel-from-any-TV" issue. Looking at perhaps something like this if I have to go that route:

Amazon.com: Next Generation Remote Control Extender: Electronics


From the comments here, sounds like I will definitely need some kind of A/B box or signal distributer, or switch box in my entertainment center area. I don't think my Encounter already has one of these from what I recall. Will be interesting to see the signal strength, too.

Was hoping to get a dish mount (like for the very similar Vcube, which mounts to the coach ladder), but am hearing that the bolt pattern for the "feet" at the bottom of the Tailgater has been changed (units made starting this past Aug 2012). The Tailgater apparently no longer fits on that ladder mount correctly.

When we hit the NASCAR races (and are packed in like sardines in the camping areas) would be great to put it high up there for the duration of our trip. Can't travel with it up there, however. Not sure there's another ladder mount option on the market that would work right now. May have to do the old bungee and locking cable thing on the roof instead. I've heard some folks just keep it on the ground with a locking cable, but I would think that having it that low might be an issue with the signal...
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:08 PM   #8
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I use a HDMI splitter, 1 in 2 out, to distribute my signals to 2 tvs. The coax in our trailer only distributes cable signals. The remote for the 211k works from the bedroom with the 211 in the living room. Either the remote signal is RF or the IR signal is bouncing off the windows in the front of the trailer. Give it a try to see what you get. I know there are remote repeaters available for either RF or IF so you can control the 211 from anywhere.

I normally put the dish on top of the slide or on the roof in front of the ladder. With roof location I can run a cable through ladder and lock the ends through the small hole in the handle. This can be done on the slide but a long cable is needed.
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Well, I took the plunge! Ordered a DISH Tailgater and am now eagerly awaiting its arrival. Since we're part-time vacation travelers, I thought this would be a good choice for us. Now I can basically sit in the middle of a field and watch TV all day long!

It comes with the satellite antenna which plugs directly into one receiver. I'm hoping that the Encounter is set up so that it will be distributed to both the living room and bedroom TVs when I connect it to the coach's satellite hook up. (I have a thread going on another forum about this as well). Won't know until I know, I guess.

If not, I may end up having to wirelessly stream the signal to bedroom and also to portable external TV, in addition to my living room TV. We have 3 TVs and I'm hoping to change the channel from wherever I am around the coach too. Currently looking at a few solutions for that scenario too...

Will keep posted about my progress in case anyone else does this at some point. And, if anyone else has any advice here for me, fire away!
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Might be what you want. Oh yes...this is Actiontecs' website with a nice video. It shows you that it has an IR repeater hookup which will let you control your receiver . http://www.actiontec.com/products/pr...9#.UVYtA30pDMI
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Those are better links than I had! Thanks!

Got it yesterday; looks like this weekend we'll plug everything in and (hopefully!) it will work!
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