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Old 03-10-2014, 07:12 AM   #21
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Thank you my fellow veterans from the Sister Services for your service. Back INCONUS at last (I am getting too old for field work). Retired from USN as a ('lotta letters), STSCM/SS, 0416. Literal translation; crazy bubblehead (Sonar Technician Master Chief Submarines/Qualified Submarines, Intelligence). Retired in '87 after 23 years, went to work at ONI as a subject area specialist who is going to retire for the final time this coming September. 67years old Mar 15, and want to wander the country in MH. Flirted with diesel, decided to stay gas. Diesel/Gas is a personal preference; Pros and Cons for both and ALL have their problems/concerns. We (DW and I) went for the floor Plan we liked and let the Floor Plan govern the propulsion system. Yeah, yeah we're fussy. There are retro kits out there for AirRide you can have installed on a gas coach. There are a few more things you need to concern yourself with diesel (and stay on top of) one of which is covered in this thread: Algae In Diesel Fuel - Type A motorhomes - FMCA Motorhome Forums

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Thank you as well, best of luck on your 'second' retirement....hope you put thousands of miles under your belt and enjoy every bit of it.
We are pretty fussy ourselves, floor plan played a role in our decision along with many other things. I spent too many years being uncomfortable, now I want to be comfortable.
Thanks for the link on the algae, looks like the simple solution is just keep the tank full.
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Old 06-14-2014, 07:45 PM   #22
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I own a freightliner Prism with the mercedes diesel, it's only 25' but the mileage is incredible. No toad I get 19 mpg unless it get a strong headwind like I did in Montana a couple weeks ago, went down to 15, still pretty good. Obviously not the same amount of space as in a full size coach but good for the the DW and myself. I will say one thing about diesel in the US, they have started to increase the amount of biodiesel in each gal. I know my engine is only supposed to use of 5%, might be something to remember if you decide to move forward with a diesel.
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:27 AM   #23
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I own a freightliner Prism with the mercedes diesel, it's only 25' but the mileage is incredible. No toad I get 19 mpg unless it get a strong headwind like I did in Montana a couple weeks ago, went down to 15, still pretty good. Obviously not the same amount of space as in a full size coach but good for the the DW and myself. I will say one thing about diesel in the US, they have started to increase the amount of biodiesel in each gal. I know my engine is only supposed to use of 5%, might be something to remember if you decide to move forward with a diesel.
Fuel additives are a problem in both diesel and gas unfortunately.

The mileage issue seems to be a little murky. One costs more but gives better mileage, the other costs less but mileage is not as good.

One reason I haven't moved to diesel yet is the extensive maintenance and its related cost as compared to gas. I can get my oil changed, new oil and air filters and a lube for $60 or thereabouts.

Same service on a diesel is closer to $450 as I understand all the filters and amount of oil a diesel requires.

What I like about diesel is the quality of components, the heavy duty build approach to the chassis and the engine. Oh, and with the engine in back its a much quieter ride I believe.

Some might point out the net carrying capacity advantage of a diesel compared to gas but my particular Encounter has a NCC of 4100 pounds which is about what you would get in a diesel.

I would like a crisper turn-in and a smoother, bus like, ride but you can't have it all, (our Encounter can be jarring on rough pavement). I have played with tire pressures within the range for our weight load but didn't like the wear I thought I was starting to see. Subsequently pumped them up just a bit.

Even with all the chassis work my coach is still slightly slow to turn in and with the jeep attached, tends to oversteer once the front tires bite. When you make the operator adjustments to the handling characteristics, its no problem but a surer feel at the wheel would be nice.
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:43 AM   #24
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Fuel additives are a problem in both diesel and gas unfortunately.

The mileage issue seems to be a little murky. One costs more but gives better mileage, the other costs less but mileage is not as good.

One reason I haven't moved to diesel yet is the extensive maintenance and its related cost as compared to gas. I can get my oil changed, new oil and air filters and a lube for $60 or thereabouts.

Same service on a diesel is closer to $450 as I understand all the filters and amount of oil a diesel requires.

What I like about diesel is the quality of components, the heavy duty build approach to the chassis and the engine. Oh, and with the engine in back its a much quieter ride I believe.

Some might point out the net carrying capacity advantage of a diesel compared to gas but my particular Encounter has a NCC of 4100 pounds which is about what you would get in a diesel.

I would like a crisper turn-in and a smoother, bus like, ride but you can't have it all, (our Encounter can be jarring on rough pavement). I have played with tire pressures within the range for our weight load but didn't like the wear I thought I was starting to see. Subsequently pumped them up just a bit.

Even with all the chassis work my coach is still slightly slow to turn in and with the jeep attached, tends to oversteer once the front tires bite. When you make the operator adjustments to the handling characteristics, its no problem but a surer feel at the wheel would be nice.
I think $450.00 is quite high



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Old 06-18-2014, 11:27 AM   #25
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I've never owned a gas MH so I can't comment on maintenance. My diesel takes 14 litres of Mobil 1 synthetic which translates to about $130.00. The oil filter is about $6.00 and the fuel filter is about $40. So altogether you're looking at less than $200 if you do it yourself which is what I do. Those items are good for 10,000 miles which is pretty good. Of course other maintenance items need to be done like any vehicle. I bought diesel for reliability, fuel mileage and resale value. I currently have 52,000 miles on my Prism with no major issues other than regular maintenance. Hope this helps a bit, good luck with your decision.
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