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Old 04-30-2014, 03:46 PM   #21
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But if your car was never equipped with a spare, what do AAA and CoachNet and Good Sam do when they get there to help you? Maybe they carry "fix-a-flat" like in Lou's car.
I'm thinking I would tell them there is no spare so they show up with a tow truck.
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Old 04-30-2014, 03:53 PM   #22
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I'm thinking I would tell them there is no spare so they show up with a tow truck.

If the flat is on the rear they would have to lift the front and swap one of the tires to the rear to tow it. I think they would more likely remove the flat and fix it on the spot or take it somewhere. You need to check your fine print as I have seen some say they will change your tire if you have a spare but anything more will cost you extra.
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:55 PM   #23
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But if your car was never equipped with a spare, what do AAA and CoachNet and Good Sam do when they get there to help you? Maybe they carry "fix-a-flat" like in Lou's car.

Don't forget to pull your TPM sensor if you ever use a tire sealant. The stuff that plugs the hole in the itre can also plug the sensor.

Also the use of sealant may void any tire warranty. Read the fine print.
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:59 PM   #24
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Having handled 2 blowouts on my old El Dorado (one that completely destroyed my wheel well), I've got some advice.

Get an electric impact wrench - you can get a good one from harbor Freight for under $40. You can run it off the generator, and it'll break loose that big lug nut that's probably torqued to well over 125 ft-lbs. Buy 2 bottle jacks. Not one, TWO. That way when one starts to sink in the ground you aren't stuck. Make sure you have the correct impact socket. Don't use regular sockets - you need specific for impact wrench use. Don't wait until you get the flat tire to try everything out.

You need:

2 bottle jacks (hefty ones too)
electric impact wrench
extension cord (at least long enough to reach from the outside outlets to the tire farthest away)
Impact deep well socket
Oh yeah, better have a spare tire too (that's got air in it). Check it once in a while...

Best case scenario - you never need it for your rig, but are right there for a fellow RV-er.
My "leveling boards" are a pair of 2x8x12 Use these under the bottle jack.

Even if you don't "plan" on changing your tires having the correct size spare will save you the inflated cost of whatever brand tire the tow truck company brings out.

You might find this informative.
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:07 PM   #25
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Nice vid, Tireman9, but not that convincing to me to ditch the spare. I boondock in a pretty remote area, and would have trouble even explaining to a tow service how to get to me. Maybe it's just me, but I prefer to be self sufficient.

As far as leveling boards, I have plenty available to use under my bottle jacks. That said, I'd still have 2 jacks on hand. If nothing else, its a redundant system to keep the RV off your foot. More useful than a jack stand too.

As far as TPMS sensors, aren't large rigs like motorhomes exempt from that requirement (so far)?
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:14 PM   #26
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I read about Trailer Aid on this forum. Works great to get tire off the ground enough to change. Easy to store and seems more stable than using a bottle jack on the side of the road.
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:53 PM   #27
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Every 100 pounds they can get rid of is an instant .1MPG improvement. That spare? about 20-30 pounds. Tools? Another 10. So, they're almost halfway to that .1 improvement just eliminating the spare. We're so connected today that they can justify getting rid of it assuming you'll just call someone. I thought it would become an option, instead it's just gone.

The liability angle is valid also. I have a spare tire, but no tools or jack. Luckily, my truck jack is a bottle style that reaches high enough for a trailer axle and I carry real tools with me.

Finally, and the real reason hidden under the guise of improved economy, it saves the manufacturer money. At car maker volume I'm guessing it's $35-70 per car, the RV industry you can probably double that price, tools and everything. The bean counters would kill to save $100 per unit, once that door opened it was game on.
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As far as TPMS sensors, aren't large rigs like motorhomes exempt from that requirement (so far)?
I believe you are correct. No standard TPMS on my '12 F-350 DRW although I don't consider it a "large rig" nor did my '14 F-53 chassis come with TPMS.
Along with no requirement, I don't think Fords computer can be programmed for more than 2 wheels per axle.
Soooooo, I put my own TPMS on both vehicles. Its not like the OEM systems that alarm when your pressure is 15+% low. the aftermarket units are fully programmable and provide much more information in real time. I had them on my 5th wheel as well. Saved my bacon and my sheet metal/fiberglass.
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If the flat is on the rear they would have to lift the front and swap one of the tires to the rear to tow it. I think they would more likely remove the flat and fix it on the spot or take it somewhere. You need to check your fine print as I have seen some say they will change your tire if you have a spare but anything more will cost you extra.
Really... RV Towing Los Angeles
And here's the fine print:
http://www.coach-net.com/Plans/Motorized.aspx/
Actually in normal size font.
No spare, got Coach-Net, no problem.
(Wish I got paid for that plug?)
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Well I can't post here what my wife said about what the guy said in the video. We blew out two tires our fist trip out this year and neither was fix-a-flat-able. The second tire went around 09:30 on a Friday night, with no more spare tires, I called Good Sam Roadside Assistance. They could send someone but wasn't able to find anyone that time of night that could get another tire. Thankfully, a very nice young man stopped and offered us a tire and wheel that would fit the trailer so that we could get to my in-laws who lived 30 minutes away. Wife says were are not leaving anymore without TWO spares! I would NOT EVER just depend on roadside assistance. FYI, never made it to the campground.
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