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Old 07-23-2013, 08:59 PM   #71
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Hi 1945,

Wow you have the latest serial number I have seen, being the highest number they have built to date is 1973. But all of these aren't WFs.

What brand and model couch did you buy and how did you get it in the TT? That's the first thing I want to do as we don't need the cold out bed.
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:29 PM   #72
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Hi 1945,

Wow you have the latest serial number I have seen, being the highest number they have built to date is 1973. But all of these aren't WFs.

What brand and model couch did you buy and how did you get it in the TT? That's the first thing I want to do as we don't need the cold out bed.

Hello Toyboy, simple, American Signature: this unit: American Signature Furniture - Nolan Leather Dual Reclining Loveseat

Back comes off, delivery guys went right through the door tilting it sideways. The factory "thing" had to be disassembled! There was a weight difference of about 15 lbs if memory serves me right... there are modifications that need to be made to the composite floor in the slide area to support the recliner. I'll see if I can post some pictures of what I did.
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:35 PM   #73
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Sounds good, would like to see pics. Did you have them come to your house or did you take the TT to the store? What color did you pick and what was the price of the love seat?
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I had the slide empty they delivered to my place. Its the same one shown in the link I sent. Same price.. anyone wanting to do this needs a "wall recliner".

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Aluminum beams to distribute weight evenly. Used contact paper to front beam to match wood. Beams screwed to the floor on ends to prevent movement. End panels, "black" thin shelving board also covered with leather like contact paper screwed to beams. Couch put in place and centered by me and the wife and bolted to front beam to prevent movement. Then black trim added to front beam edge.

Note: beams need to be sturdy as not to flex, weight needs to be where original couch weight was ... on the ends of the beams. Recliner frame needs to line up with beams. Measuring, using the proper screws is important. My advise is don't set a recliner on the composite floor in the middle that floor needs to flex when moving the slide in and out and further more is not level, put a strait edge across it and you'll see. We have had this recliner set-up for about 8 months and it has worked well and very relaxing by comparison. It does not recline 100 percent due to the space but is much much nicer than what was there.

I'm not suggesting that anyone install as I have, I'm just sharing what I did. Careful consideration must be taken involving weight of persons, furniture, and hardware used to make modification. Totally there is about a 30 lb difference between new recliner and hardware in comparison to the original couch that was installed. I'm still looking for little drink holders for each side to fill in the spaces. No hurry I'll look around a bit. I'm leaving out some technical stuff ... but you get the idea!





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oops my bad on the link ... that's a chocolate couch ... mines black ... everything else the same weighs a little more than the original couch, I don't remember the numbers, but its close or I wouldn't have done it.
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Old 07-24-2013, 07:28 AM   #77
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AWF1945,
to date the following items have been a problem
front door misaligned, damaged frame
1x1 wood supports for table split
wrong fitting on outside hose
wrong color LED in kitchen
LED lights flash when fan turned on in bathroom
slide topper has something in it that is leaving rust stains on outside of RV
rubber closures on battery compartment do not stay closed
magnetic cabinet door striker plates not anywhere near the magnets
no water (very little) in kitchen sink
fabric patterns do not match on dinette back cushions.
at the price point that FR was setting for these that amount of defects is really unacceptable. My airstream had not 1 problem in the time I owned it. the cheapness of the fabrics and fixtures is amazing at 89,000 price point. the awning is much too small and should have been the size of the one on the back of the brochure, look at the spacing of the supports. The aviator was doomed from the time they produced the 1st one. the new aviator will pale in comparison to ours as they need to lower the price in order to keep this line, just look what happened to the spirit of st. louis. As far as trade in value, forget it, i just tried! Giant offered in the range of 35,000 to 38,0000 as they still have about 10 or so on their lot. I really expected more from FR for a trailer they wanted almost 90,000 for, if i were you I would have kept the wanderlodge, my wife loves them.
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Hey Bob,

I feel your frustration. I agree for the price things should have been flawless. However, that's not the case even with a million dollar bus. Trust me I would still have my Blue Bird had it not caught on fire due to the refrigerator. It was completely destroyed and I was so devastated I won't get another bus as a result. I'm trying to keep it simple from here on.

Some of the issues you listed are easy fixes: lights flashing adding resistors fixed that problem. Rubber hood latches were probably due to customers trying to open the hood with them latched and there stretched out. I replaced my for the same reason all is fine. The wife and I both discovered the patterns didn't match on material as you did and I did say something about it. I have had to align a few cabinet doors latches and magnets. Had to have the front windshield sealed for a leak. My hope is that like most other coaches I've owned, I can get the little bugs worked out and all will be well. I've owned a bunch over the past 30 years, this is the first TT.

My hope is that the structure will hold up and not fall apart given the conditions of the interstate system these days (some better than others)if it falls apart then .... well I won't get into that. You might look at it this way, we may have a collectable and you don't lose anything if you don't sell it!

As far as owning something that's going up and down the road there are going to be repairs needed from time to time things give out with use, but I'm with you ... out of the gate they need to be right. Personally I would fire whomever makes their furniture, BTW I did meet the owner and told him his furniture sucked ... should have seen the faces in the room

As for FR they have been very helpful in getting any and all issues addressed to this point and the head of warranty Brian is a fabulous and valuable guy to FR. I'm pulling this unit a lot I'll be the first to let everyone know as I go how its holding up. I do most all the repairs myself, I don't want the dealer touching it. Why would I have someone less qualified than me to work on it ... unless its major and needs to go back to the factory. Good luck with yours Bob.
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well you seem to have all the problems solved that mine has or had. Brian seem to have a good reputation with my dealer for warranty work also, hope he does not end up like Mike Burns, he was the warranty guy for class c a few years ago, bent over backwards to correct all the problems my Ridgeview had ( the Super C FR should have never made). After the factory rebuilt it and had it delivered back to me , they fired Mike. This is my 4th FR product in 3 years so I am well aware of the QC issues they all seem to have.
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Hey Bob, not to rattle your cage but a question pops into mind. If you don't like Giants service and you are disgusted with FRs quality, then why do you keep buying FR product?
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