25% Grade - Should I be concerned?

[OldCoot]

Originally Posted by lbrjet

Brockway mountain drive is 13% at the steepest point.

To answer a prior posters question a 10% grade would be a 100 feet elevation change per 1000 feet of travel. In other words 520 feet up or down per mile.


2010 F250 5.4L 3.73
2011 Flagstaff 831FKBSS
Equal-i-zer 4pt 12K

Very slight correction lbrjet, it would be 100 feet in 1000 horizontal travel, actual distance traveled would be ~1005 feet. Hypotenuse of a triangle with sides of 100 and 1000.

[TURBS]

Watch "Pulling a travel trailer up Amicalola Falls 18 -25% grade" on YouTube
Pulling a travel trailer up Amicalola Falls 18 -25% grade: https://youtu.be/qtsghJHOYNs

TURBS
08 duramax tuned n modded, 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "2 nights"

[Ford Idaho]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/AyXgMal3C1U

[WolfWhistle]

I've been there several times. The most intense grade is when you are going between the Lodge (where I had to register) and making the severe right turn onto drive up to the CG. I was pulling a Trailmanor with a 2002 Chevy 4.8L worn out gasser. Since the turn is so tight you can't get a running start. However, if you go left at the split and up to the CG first before registering, it isn't as bad. Maybe you could park there and hike to the Lodge or if you have low gears, ride a bike. The grades in the CG itself are enough that I didn't like riding (or trying) to ride the bicycle. I can't answer if your FR3 30 can make it, but I think it will, especially if you go immediately up to the CG; it is a very short pull, but does carry with it a certain pucker factor. Let us know how it goes and send photos! I find it hard to believe 25% grade.

[WolfWhistle]

Love that video FI! You're going to scare us all. Time to trade in the Yugo?

[Witch Doctor]

Originally Posted by TURBS

Watch "Pulling a travel trailer up Amicalola Falls 18 -25% grade" on YouTube
Pulling a travel trailer up Amicalola Falls 18 -25% grade: https://youtu.be/qtsghJHOYNs

TURBS
08 duramax tuned n modded, 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "2 nights"

Only seen one turn out to clean your shorts.

[Timex]

Here is a video of the road up and the campground.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T06bWYamvTs

[Witch Doctor]

Originally Posted by WolfWhistle

I've been there several times. The most intense grade is when you are going between the Lodge (where I had to register) and making the severe right turn onto drive up to the CG. I was pulling a Trailmanor with a 2002 Chevy 4.8L worn out gasser. Since the turn is so tight you can't get a running start. However, if you go left at the split and up to the CG first before registering, it isn't as bad. Maybe you could park there and hike to the Lodge or if you have low gears, ride a bike. The grades in the CG itself are enough that I didn't like riding (or trying) to ride the bicycle. I can't answer if your FR3 30 can make it, but I think it will, especially if you go immediately up to the CG; it is a very short pull, but does carry with it a certain pucker factor. Let us know how it goes and send photos! I find it hard to believe 25% grade.

Is that a pop up trailer? has to be the biggest I have seen if it is.......

[jevanb]

Originally Posted by lbrjet

Brockway mountain drive is 13% at the steepest point.

To answer a prior posters question a 10% grade would be a 100 feet elevation change per 1000 feet of travel. In other words 520 feet up or down per mile.


2010 F250 5.4L 3.73
2011 Flagstaff 831FKBSS
Equal-i-zer 4pt 12K

I read somewhere it was 22 for a very short length. All I know the entrance from copper harbor is steep.

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[Vince and Charlette]

Here's my simple rule of thumb for just such a situation: "When in doubt, don't".

[TURBS]

Originally Posted by gljurczyk

Is that a pop up trailer? has to be the biggest I have seen if it is.......[emoji106]

Google hi low trailer.

TURBS
08 duramax tuned n modded, 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "2 nights"

[gtony2]

NO TOAD AND STOP TO COOL DOWN ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION IF THIS A LONG WAYS UP?????




gtony2

[Ford Idaho]

Originally Posted by gtony2

NO TOAD AND STOP TO COOL DOWN ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION IF THIS A LONG WAYS UP?????




gtony2

Take the toad, use it as a Pusher.

[Long Leaf Piners]

No, Turbs; WolfWhistle's picture is of a TrailManor. We had a TrailManor 2720 before we bought our first fifth. Towed at 20 feet, opened to 27 length; full bed, bath, kitchen, dining table, couch. We could open and set up in the rain; and everything was hardsided exterior.
The HiLo is a different type, opening up and down, but not getting any longer; pretty heavy from what folks said, compared to the TrailManor. Good times

[WolfWhistle]

Originally Posted by Long Leaf Piners

No, Turbs; WolfWhistle's picture is of a TrailManor. We had a TrailManor 2720 before we bought our first fifth. Towed at 20 feet, opened to 27 length; full bed, bath, kitchen, dining table, couch. We could open and set up in the rain; and everything was hardsided exterior.
The HiLo is a different type, opening up and down, but not getting any longer; pretty heavy from what folks said, compared to the TrailManor. Good times

X2 LLP,

The Hi-Lo is very heavy compared to the wonderfully engineered TM. They did go out of business but are back. The are very well made and very expensive for what they are. But, if the mini van you have can pull it and pulling the trailer (the small one, I am sure) costs you extra gallon of fuel for 100 miles, there is something to be said for it. Good memories! I wonder why I went from 3500# to 10K# and from a small V8 to a CTD. I could have put the bike in the bed of the truck. DOH!

[WolfWhistle]

Originally Posted by gtony2

NO TOAD AND STOP TO COOL DOWN ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION IF THIS A LONG WAYS UP?????

Very short pull maybe half a mile to a mile.

[WolfWhistle]

Originally Posted by TURBS

Watch "Pulling a travel trailer up Amicalola Falls 18 -25% grade" on YouTube
Pulling a travel trailer up Amicalola Falls 18 -25% grade: https://youtu.be/qtsghJHOYNs

TURBS
08 duramax tuned n modded, 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "2 nights"

I think just as the video ended he would have been on the steepest point.

Looking at Google earth, it looks like the drive into the park (from the Information Center is about 7400 feet long and rises about 835 feet. That is about barely over 11%. There could be short rises that hit 17%. I've driven a mile or two in GA, including parks and I bet the drive up to Brasstown Bald much steeper and it is claimed to be 20%, but Amicalola 25% grade, I don't believe it. Unless there is a road in the park that might be that steep, but not to the CG. I think in cycling circles, steep grades get exaggerated, maybe this is the case.

[RamblerGuy]

Don't unhook the toad. Put your navigator in it and have her/him push!

Just kidding.

[WolfWhistle]

RG and FI, it sounds good at first. It would take excellent communication and coordination between both drivers. I would practice it in a level place first, as well as have very good insurance. This could go very very wrong! I could turn out to be one of those "ya'll watch this" kind of moments.

Edit: The OP won't have a problem. I sent an email to the assistant director at the park to gets his input and if he can confirm where this idea came from.

[elind]

Originally Posted by jevanb

I read somewhere it was 22 for a very short length. All I know the entrance from copper harbor is steep.

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We drive school buses up that road with a full load of kids on class trips to Copper Harbor.