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Old 06-06-2015, 11:56 PM   #51
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After our 1st 4,000 mile trip with the F53 is stock positions, l will be doing the CHF before July 1st to try on that trip.


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Old 06-07-2015, 07:12 AM   #52
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After our 1st 4,000 mile trip with the F53 is stock positions, l will be doing the CHF before July 1st to try on that trip.
Yep - But don't expect miracles.
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Old 06-07-2015, 07:56 AM   #53
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I have a class A truckers DL with over 3/4 of a million miles under my belt having drove for just under 4yrs. I've rocked a big truck all over this country and Canada eh.. I've been to some of the best truck driving schools in the country, I've put full size 18 wheelers into full skids on the skid pads and recovered from jack knife situations, I've completed hands on driving courses of sharp curves, and zig zagging at speeds of 35mph being the only driver not to knock over a cone in the class😳 luck and jimmy john freaky fast reflexes I guess, and this is my 3rd motorhome, 1st brand new one and 2nd class A with JeNNY being the biggest. I'm here to tell ya, and it don't matter if the winds hitting you on the side, or if a 18 wheelers is passing JeNNY on her left or even if it's a F250 pick up truck passing JeNNY, this FR3 is a total hand full to drive. My speeds were kept at 63mph and that even felt as though l was pushing JeNNY to her safe limits. The skill set required to drive the F53 in MHOP is much greater than that of a truckers driving skill set needed to rock a big truck. Now, when the winds were calm and the road smooth and no other vehicles were passing me JeNNY drove nice, and so that was about 1% of the drive, and those sound like laboratory conditions. I'm noting for the record here based on all my professional driving experience, based on safety awards given to me by not only the truckers safety programs but also from the trucking company l drove for safety department and company's insurance provider, JeNNYs the biggest hand full of anything I've ever driven. I strongly think I'm saying something here, I've drove more things in my life than l feel most have including huge Navy ships and smaller LCVP's. With only 2 more driving hours left in our trip till we get home, l just had to get that out. What say you?


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Old 06-07-2015, 09:07 AM   #54
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Thats a lot of driving experience. So you know what is going on but fixing it is a whole different story. To tame your kite, you will most likely need, based on your story, more than just the CHF. Layer your fixes and you will see marked improvement with each step.

BTW, what does that rock crawling, mud slinging entertainment vehicle and trailer weigh?
I'm thinking you know where this story is going...
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Old 06-07-2015, 11:25 AM   #55
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I'm not using the Jeep n trailer into the driving observations because this has been my same set up thru all 3 motorhomes and even before I started with motorhomes when I used to tow with my pick up and set up a tent. But no one would know that but me, being a rock junkie this is our 7th Moab trip and so with my other 2 motorhomes and JeNNY l make my comparison. Then also there is all the other postings from FR3 owners who tow and don't talking the same stress of road manors here. This vehicle drives borderline unsafe off the assembly line and that wrong. I'm going to take steps in improving road safety, I owe that to my family and the family who just pasted me on my left, Forest River l will ask to share in that responsibility.


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Old 06-07-2015, 03:56 PM   #56
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I did the CHF on the front first and noticed a big difference just driving out of our neighborhood. It didn't roll nearly as much and felt more stable. I then did the CHF on the rear and that tightened the whole thing up. I also took it to our local Ford dealer and got an alignment. That took care of the wandering I had been fighting on the highway.

All in all, I noticed a big difference. No more tail wag, no more wandering, much more stable in turns. I just got back from a 2000 mile trip through Texas and drove between 60 & 70 MPH. Cross winds were a bear, so I would just slow down to where I felt comfortable. I don't think anything can fix that since I am pushing a big giant box down the highway.

I am going to install Koni's to see if that helps the ride any. The only other thing I might try is a steering stabilizer. (but for now, I don't think i need it)

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Old 06-07-2015, 07:45 PM   #57
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Good input. I'm adjust my sway bars this weekend.


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Old 06-09-2015, 04:27 PM   #58
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No experience driving things that bend in the middle, but 10 years driving over the road coaches in the mid-1970's and 80's that varied from 2 to 20 years old and averaged 35k pounds. The FR3 drives about the same. Kind of like an old FM 4106

Big winds cause me some concern as the FR is top heavy. Knowing its a no no I travel with water tank pretty full to add weight down lower and this helps with trucks sucking me in.

Have done the CHP and added the Safe-T- stabilizer.

Just don't find the drive all that bad.
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Old 06-12-2015, 02:47 PM   #59
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Ok the front sway bar CHF is done! Looking at the holes used by factory, they look as though there's a lot of stress going on. Lots of metal shavings from that hole dealing with a Constance fight with sway.

Now on to the rear sway bar!!


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Ok I've got the rear CHF done, but also discovered a issue... Look at this eh:
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That's the rear sway bar mount on the drivers side to the axle... It's missing.😳. I have a call into the great folks at Forest River and they are working on getting me a new clamp kit as I type here!!
The passengers side clamp is there but the top 15mm bolt was loose. I tightened it down good and snug!!


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