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Old 02-15-2014, 12:11 PM   #1
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Dry weight of FR3 30DS

Can someone tell me what the dry weight of a 30DS is? I think that would include full gas tank & propane tank. I can't find any specs that give this info. Also, does it come with a TV antenna of any kind? What about a fantastic fan?
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:26 PM   #2
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Sorry just noticed that is gross weight.

Have you talked to a dealer yet?

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Old 02-15-2014, 07:07 PM   #3
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Small tv antenna, not sure what kind, no fantastic fans, only a very small standard fan. Bath does not have a fan at all. I got the dealer to install two fantastic fans with covers, and drop the price on my 25 much Lower than the best internet price.
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Old 02-16-2014, 09:42 AM   #4
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The sticker behind the driver's seat says the GVWR is 18,000 lbs, with the GVWR front axle being 7,000 lbs, and the rear being 12,000 lbs (they don't add, but, hey, that's what it says).

There is a yellow sticker inside the door jamb that says the dry weight is 14,804 lbs. It then says that the total weight of cargo and occupants should not exceed 2,535 lbs. That gets you to 17,339. It reminds you that a full water tank weighs 416 lbs, which gets you to 17,755. If you add a full tank of gas at 90 gal x ~6 lb/gal = 540 lb and propane at 20 gal x ~ 4lb/gal = 80 lbs, that would get you to 18,375. If you were riding with the max cargo/occupant load, a full water tank, gas tank, and propane tank, it looks like you'd be a little over the GVWR. Oh, it also mentions that tongue weight of a towed vehicle counts toward cargo.

One thing that was recommended to me, and which I had the opportunity to do, is to have the rig weighed, not just total, but by each tire to assure you have a relatively balanced load and aren't exceeding either the tire or axle rating.

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Old 02-16-2014, 07:47 PM   #5
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The sticker behind the driver's seat says the GVWR is 18,000 lbs, with the GVWR front axle being 7,000 lbs, and the rear being 12,000 lbs (they don't add, but, hey, that's what it says).


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The weights never add. Our F150 has GAWR of 3900 and 4050, but a GVWR of 7700. So the combined axle weights are 250lbs over the GVWR, which allows for weight distribution variance.

As far as other weights, here are some of mine:
For reference, since the weight has been kicked around in this thread:
Motorhome with 2 occupants full of water and fuel:
6420lb steer
10000lb drive
16420 combined

Motorhome with 3 occupants full of water and fuel, and weekend provisions
6470lb steer
10300lb drive
16770 RV
3890 Mazda CX-5 on dolly
20660 combined

I havent pulled the race trailer as of yet, but I would expect it to be in the 4500lb range.

FWIW, my CCC sticker says 2757lb.

Typically, a "dry" weight includes NO gas and NO propane.

As previously mentioned, the CCC sticker assumes one average occupant at 150lb and full fuel. Some weights of various items include:
Propane: 100.8lb per 24 gal tank
Gas: 504lb per 80 gal tank
Water: 525lbs per 57 gallon fresh and 6gal water heater

So, in my case with 2757lb, and the fact that I am not an average occupant ...

2757
100lb for propane
50lb for me
525lb of water

Gets me down to 2082lb of REAL cargo capacity.

As far as exceeding the axle rating, I think its possible on either end with a poorly loaded motorhome, but it would take some doing. As far as exceeding the tire rating? At 90psi, the tires have almost 1000lb gratiuity on the front axle, and about 2600lb on the rear axle. The Goodyears that FR provides are load range G, and significant overkill for this application.

Edit: Ive been playing the GVWR, GCWR, GAWR weight game for a number of years now, so if there are any questions, please ask. Chances are, I know the answer after dealing with everything from a 1/2 ton pickup to a federally governed 80,000lb toterhome.
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Old 02-17-2014, 10:37 PM   #6
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Many thanks

Thank you all very much for the info. Even though we will not be getting our unit for another month, we are trying to get all the info. we can beforehand. We had not been able to find out the CCC nor if it had a fan or TV antenna. The fan is a necessity since we dry camp quite a bit.
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Cucamel, you knocked it out of the park again! I always look for your answers to posts and make sure Cowboy Bob reads them too! Thank you!!
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Aw shucks, I just do what I can.
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We had not been able to find out the CCC nor if it had a fan or TV antenna. The fan is a necessity since we dry camp quite a bit.
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Mine has a fixed antenna that doesn't get raised or lowered, so if the generator is running, the TV can be watched by passengers while I'm driving. (I want to add an inverter.) Mine has no fans at all. Over the stove is a mock vent fan that pulls cooking odors through a filter and re-vents the air to the cabin. I want to add a fan in the bathroom, but running the electric could be an issue.
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Old 02-24-2014, 05:55 PM   #10
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I had the dealer add to fans to my FR3 25 and the nice black covers to all three vents. I put a simple fantastic fan in the bath, it is powered off the light switch on the wall but you can turn light off and run just the fan, or switch the fan off and run just the light.

In the main coach they put in one of the better fans that has thermostat, blows in or out and is variable speed. That one is powered off the main coach lights so at night you would turn the three ceiling lights off if you want the fan on. Not a big hassle and it will also solve the kitchen vent issue. That one has the large knob that you turn to raise and lower the cover.
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