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Old 05-24-2016, 04:45 PM   #61
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My First Year 2015 FR3 30DS

Since this thread has been bumped, I'll jump on. I really do like the FR3 for it's layout and style. I, like the OP, am very tired of things defective or failing. I'm very anxious to get past the first year (plus) of problems that inevitably occur. More than a year later, I'm still working with dealer, FR, and a body shop to get everything up to par. Call it a love/hate relationship with the coach and the players.

A little more than a year after delivery, I've had more than 20 issues that anyone would agree are significant. Biggest was crackle spots in the curb side fiberglass. 11 weeks in the body shop and, while I have it back for a trip, still has awning LEDs (incorrect part shipped) and many decals (some missing from kit) to be (re-)installed.

Just yesterday, found a loose sway bar attachment bolt while performing the "Cheap Handling Fix". The LED strip had 3 failed lights a year ago so second replacement for them. Bunk bed falling. LR TV swinging out underway (mine hinged on left). Outside TV miss-wired for DVD. Taillights cracked/leaking, 3 screws missed the body, 1 stripped. Stair frame cracked causing droopy stairs. Bathroom door would not close without turning handle. One Drawer rail broken. Screen door 1" gap top left. Floating inner tire extenders. Slide trim screw stripped causing flapping. Fog lights way miss-aimed/inferior headlights. Gray tank is only 35 gallons, usable. CO2 detector failed (alarming). Being a retired systems engineer, I was able to fix most of these myself.

We've also done over 30 improvements. My two favorites are heated & remote mirrors and a basement tube for a sewer hose.
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Old 05-24-2016, 05:46 PM   #62
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Kadiddle.... Would love to see pics of the remote heated mirrors and info on where you bought them, model#, etc.
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Old 05-24-2016, 06:19 PM   #63
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Since this thread has been bumped, I'll jump on. I really do like the FR3 for it's layout and style. I, like the OP, am very tired of things defective or failing. I'm very anxious to get past the first year (plus) of problems that inevitably occur. More than a year later, I'm still working with dealer, FR, and a body shop to get everything up to par. Call it a love/hate relationship with the coach and the players.

A little more than a year after delivery, I've had more than 20 issues that anyone would agree are significant. Biggest was crackle spots in the curb side fiberglass. 11 weeks in the body shop and, while I have it back for a trip, still has awning LEDs (incorrect part shipped) and many decals (some missing from kit) to be (re-)installed.

Just yesterday, found a loose sway bar attachment bolt while performing the "Cheap Handling Fix". The LED strip had 3 failed lights a year ago so second replacement for them. Bunk bed falling. LR TV swinging out underway (mine hinged on left). Outside TV miss-wired for DVD. Taillights cracked/leaking, 3 screws missed the body, 1 stripped. Stair frame cracked causing droopy stairs. Bathroom door would not close without turning handle. One Drawer rail broken. Screen door 1" gap top left. Floating inner tire extenders. Slide trim screw stripped causing flapping. Fog lights way miss-aimed/inferior headlights. Gray tank is only 35 gallons, usable. CO2 detector failed (alarming). Being a retired systems engineer, I was able to fix most of these myself.

We've also done over 30 improvements. My two favorites are heated & remote mirrors and a basement tube for a sewer hose.
Dang... that's a lot of stuff...

I had the bathroom P-traps that weren't hooked up... the TV wend out on a trip, the heater quit on a trip, one of the blinds kept falling down, head lights weren't adjusted, and a small fire or burned wires on the hot water heater... oh and the bathroom door hold open catch was miss-aligned with the bracket on the wall....
I fixed it all myself except the hot water heater and TV... The little tiny things I've had are pretty insignificant compared to others here...
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Old 05-24-2016, 06:37 PM   #64
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Kadiddle.... Would love to see pics of the remote heated mirrors and info on where you bought them, model#, etc.
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Count us interested as well- the lack of power mirrors is, so far, our biggest design complaint!
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Old 05-24-2016, 08:19 PM   #65
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Regarding mirror mod, see #3 in the link below:

Power/Heated Mirrors

PM me for any missing details.
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Regarding mirror mod, see #3 in the link below:

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Wow, Kadiddle, thank you! We have no electrical experience, so this would probably be something we'd need to pay for, but brilliant work on your part, and great to hear the parts aren't too pricey for such a huge payoff in functionality and safety! Looks like the part numbers you used aren't on the Velvac site anymore, but following your path, I can call Velvac and ask for the same model. Really appreciate it!
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We've had our share of issues, those who haven't with any RV are lucky. We had 0 in 8 years with our prior FR TT and we used the heck out of it, so we were lucky. Bottom line for us is the good outweigh the bad, ten fold, so it is all good.


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Old 06-27-2016, 05:03 AM   #68
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I have owned 5 RV's. I am pretty sure that I have had to repair something on EVERY one after EVERY trip. It was explained to me 20 years ago, that if you put your house on chains and pull it down the road for a few hundred miles and return, you will HAVE to repair something. That is RVing. It shouldn't be that way, but RV manufactures have never reached the quality or technical level of other manufacturers.

LoL. A house isn't built to go down the highway. A RV is so that explanation can hold no water.
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The vibration and environment make the comparison quite valid. Your RV is subjected to 60 and 70 MPH winds and rain for hours at a time and shook by potholes at those same speeds and built with the less than premium craftwork and parts. You WILL be repairing something after most every trip. That's 25+ years of experience. At every rally there are often repair companies there to repair things and the vast majority of discussion in any rally or campfire get together is RV repair... You can still love RVing, but you have to be honest and aware..
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Well said. A great trip is one where nothing broke.
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