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Old 08-17-2016, 01:24 PM   #1
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Newbie: Damage to Toad from Flat/Dolly Towing?

We are newbies to towing an auto behind a Class A MH. We will be looking at a FR3 30DS and either flat towing or dollying a MINI behind it. My newbie questions are NOT which towing method to pursue but, for now, concern the possible damage to the body of the toad from rocks and debris.

1. How likely is damage going to occur from rocks and debris when on the interstates?

2. Is one method of towing less likely to reduce rock and debris damage?

3. Will MH mud flaps and one of those full wide "brush flaps" mounted to the rear of the MH eliminate rock and debris damage?

Thank you in advance for your patience and information! I am trying to cross the "T"s and dot the "I"s before leaping into all the towing towing decisions.

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Old 08-17-2016, 01:35 PM   #2
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1) I'd say low risk.

2) I'd say that dolly would be slightly less susceptible to damage than flat. i.e. front tires are off ground and riding higher. If you did run over something, the dolly would run over it and not the front end of the toad.

3) I would say brushes would help reduce damage. They would catch stuff that gets kicked up, as long as they are not dragging the ground and kicking stuff up.

With all that said. We usually make the car wash our first stop when unhooking the Toad
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Old 08-18-2016, 02:33 PM   #3
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Toad Damage When Towing??

Sorry for the cross-post, but I posted this on the Towing Forum and only received 1 reply. I thought that other FR3 owners might have more insight on the subject of damage to toads when flat/dolly towing.

We are newbies to towing an auto behind a Class A MH. We will be looking at a FR3 30DS and either flat towing or dollying a MINI behind it. My newbie questions are NOT which towing method to pursue but, for now, concern the possible damage to the body of the toad from rocks and debris.

1. How likely is damage going to occur from rocks and debris when on the interstates?

2. Is one method of towing less likely to reduce rock and debris damage?

3. Will MH mud flaps and one of those full wide "brush skirts" mounted to the rear of the MH eliminate rock and debris damage?

4. Do I really need one of those monstrous (and $$$$) deflector-thingys mounted to the tow bar/dolly?

Thank you in advance for your patience and information! I am trying to cross the "T"s and dot the "I"s before leaping into the MH and all the towing towing decisions.

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Old 08-18-2016, 02:53 PM   #4
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Toad Towing

I have a Jeep Wrangler that I have flat towed for several years with no damage to my toad. My first MH did not have the sweeper thing as you call it. My current MH has has a full width flap at the rear of the rig.

I have towed with a dolly - probably a bit more protection for the toad. But I hated it! Much prefer flat towing. I can hook up or unhook in less than 5 minutes without getting dirty. Also, I feel 10x more confident of the security of flat towing over dollies with their straps, weaker ball hitches, etc.

Of course your choice of towing depends on you Mini - I know of several people who flat tow manual transmission minis. However, I do not think Mini recommends flat towing.

Good luck.
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Theo.....

Anyone who tells you that you won't suffer some form of damage when towing a vehicle 3 feet behind a motorhome will have a nose that grows when they tell you so!

Interstates have the least amount of substantial stones, but speeds are higher for the grit they do have.

Flat towing vs dolly....probably doesn't matter much.

Brush skirts vs solid rubber skirts.....well, stones and such will get through the brush but don't stand as much a chance against solid rubber.

I don't tow a brand new vehicle because of the frontal attack they'll face when being towed. There's all kinds of deals on slightly used tow vehicles that may already have a few "war wounds".

It's a fact of nature a toad will show it's tail-gating something.
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Been flat towing our 2013 Subaru Crosstrek for 3 years and 14,000 miles. Other than getting dirty, just a few paint chips. Have more rock chips from everyday driving than from towing.
Only mud flaps are the factory installed ones just behind the dual rear wheels.
Planning on a 3 month trip to Canada and Alaska next year, and don't plan on doing or adding anything special xcept maybe an outer windshield cover for the Subi.
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Sorry for the cross-post, but I posted this on the Towing Forum and only received 1 reply. I thought that other FR3 owners might have more insight on the subject of damage to toads when flat/dolly towing.

We are newbies to towing an auto behind a Class A MH. We will be looking at a FR3 30DS and either flat towing or dollying a MINI behind it. My newbie questions are NOT which towing method to pursue but, for now, concern the possible damage to the body of the toad from rocks and debris.

1. How likely is damage going to occur from rocks and debris when on the interstates?

2. Is one method of towing less likely to reduce rock and debris damage?

3. Will MH mud flaps and one of those full wide "brush skirts" mounted to the rear of the MH eliminate rock and debris damage?

4. Do I really need one of those monstrous (and $$$$) deflector-thingys mounted to the tow bar/dolly?

Thank you in advance for your patience and information! I am trying to cross the "T"s and dot the "I"s before leaping into the MH and all the towing towing decisions.

Theo
Check out the following website. Protect-a-Tow

We use it every time we flat-tow our CRV, and love it! It advertises that it can be used with tow dollies also.
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I've been flat towing a Jeep behind vehicles such as: 1986 Dodge Ram Charger 4x4, 1999 GMC Z71 4x4 truck, 1985 Ford Rock Wood 26' class C, 1999 Class A Fleet Wood Flair 28' and now a 2015 FR3 30DS Class A. I've towed a 84 CJ-7, 92 Jeep Wrangler YJ, 2003 Jeep Wrangler TJ, 2010 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 4-door, 2013 Jeep Wrangler JK and a Click image for larger version

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2012 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 2-Door over the past 30+ years all over the lower 48, on the ALCAN highway, and in Alaska. I've never had one speck of trouble. But l watch the road, l don't tail gate, and I look for gators along the road. But I suppose now that I've posted this the next time I'm towing everything will go up in flames.😳
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Been flat towing our 2013 Subaru Crosstrek for 3 years and 14,000 miles. Other than getting dirty, just a few paint chips. Have more rock chips from everyday driving than from towing.
Only mud flaps are the factory installed ones just behind the dual rear wheels.
Planning on a 3 month trip to Canada and Alaska next year, and don't plan on doing or adding anything special xcept maybe an outer windshield cover for the Subi.
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Didn't know Subarus can be flat towed.
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Didn't know Subarus can be flat towed.
Manual tranny's only. In 2016 they changed their policy to no flat towing recommended. No change in tranny's between earlier years and 2016. Subi just didn't want to deal from damage caused by owners who didn't follow instructions and damaged the veh. Some numnuts were driving off with trans in gear which totally destroys trans and transfer/all wheel drive unit.
Then they claimed warranty work be done.
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