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Old 05-20-2015, 01:29 PM   #91
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Two years ago I noticed a soft spot on the floor at my side door. I did a temp fix by added this floor plate. I also put Eternal Bond 4" roof tape on every seam on the roof. At no time have I ever seen any water on the floor. since then I now have two soft spots at the rear door, left and right corner. they are getting worse and at the side door the soft spots are spreading past the floor plate. When I take my floor apart I might have to go as far as taking the kitchen cabinets out also as that area is getting worse. My floor is sealed to the wall and would love to know where the water is getting in and under the floor. I guess I'll find out when I tare it apart.

I found your repair thread by accident. The other day I was coming out of the camper and when I hit the bottom step I noticed that the floor moved where the stairs are connected. I was bummed out. Your thread has giving me hope that I can repair this and will have a stronger unit when done.



The Black tape is the eternal bond tape, strong stuff and has a long life

It took me a little while to figure out what was causing my issue. I looked for stains on the walls and any signs of leaks. I didn't see any signs anywhere so I was confused where the leak could be.

I looked under the sink , around the toilet. I even checked under the shower tub by looking in the cabinet under the microwave with a flashlight.

It wasn't until I was filling up the fresh water tank that I found what the problem was. I was at home and thought I'd fill the tank and see how long it would take to fill.

As the tank was getting full I could hear the water getting higher in the tank so i went inside to push the button to see how full it was.
That's when I noticed water streaming from under the fridge out on the floor. It started puddling up in that soft spot area and started to run down to the back.

I though "great" so glad the previous owner "fixed" the leak...

When I first bought the unit the previous owner mentioned a water leak that he fixed. He skirted around to where the problem was.

So the water running across the floor while the water was filling the tank told me otherwise.

So I wanted to see exactly where it was coming from. I disconnected the battery and pulled the cover for the circuit breakers and the inverter was. I think it was 8 screws total. I pulled the whole thing out and behind it I found the water pump and now could see more of what was going on.

I started to fill the tank again with water and went inside and watched to see where the leak was.
BINGO... Found it. It was coming from the hose that connects the outside fill cap to the hose that's connected to the fresh water tank.

I shut the water off and took the 3 screws out from the cover of the fill cap. It had some butyl tape or caulking I separated and pulled the whole thing away from the outside wall of the rv.

I seen the hose was connected to the cap with a hose clamp. So I grabbed a flat head screwdriver and i wanted to see how tight the hose clamp was.

It was loose as a goose. I must have turned to tighten that clamp for a good 30 secs. After I tightened it I turned the water back on.

No leaks at all. Not sure if that caused the whole dilemma or what.

I found the wood floor was particle board or presswood. When wet it acts like a sponge in my opinion.

So I'm happy I found my problem but so mad that it really doesn't take much to ruin a floor.


I hope you find the source of your problem , sooner than later.

Good luck !
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Old 05-25-2015, 09:15 PM   #92
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Chris, I wanted to show you the water damage on my ramp door. this will have to be rebuilt also. The picture is from this weekend
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Can I ask why you recommend against stainless? Is it a tensile strength issue?
Tensile should not be a problem as the ss is as good as the gr2 stuff they put in from the factory especially after a year of rust. And there are 3 bolts per hold down, so they should not be of any concern as to tensile strength.
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I seen the hose was connected to the cap with a hose clamp. So I grabbed a flat head screwdriver and i wanted to see how tight the hose clamp was.

It was loose as a goose. I must have turned to tighten that clamp for a good 30 secs.
Chris, if this connection is with the hose with the high rib design, the hose clamp alone rarely works. I always use 100% silicone liberally on the connection. Any other sealant Ive tried imparts an unsavory flavor to the water. These fresh water fill hoses split over time as well. So be wary..ive seen many a floor fall prey to these lines.
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Tensile should not be a problem as the ss is as good as the gr2 stuff they put in from the factory especially after a year of rust. And there are 3 bolts per hold down, so they should not be of any concern as to tensile strength.
Actually there is only 1 bolt that goes all the way through the floor. That bolt and nut are grade 5. The other two are like a lag bolt that screws into the wood of the floor.

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Chris, if this connection is with the hose with the high rib design, the hose clamp alone rarely works. I always use 100% silicone liberally on the connection. Any other sealant Ive tried imparts an unsavory flavor to the water. These fresh water fill hoses split over time as well. So be wary..ive seen many a floor fall prey to these lines.
If memory serves me right , the hose was ribbed and I tightened the hose clamp as much as I could with out breaking anything. Used a 1/4 ratchet and socket to tighten it.

I will deffinately keep an eye on that especially since in my opinion that was the cause of the damage in the first place. Thanks for the help.


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Chris, I wanted to show you the water damage on my ramp door. this will have to be rebuilt also. The picture is from this weekend
Check out the 84" Screen with a HD Projector on my friends Raptor.
Last year we watched Friday the 13th on Friday the 13th

I can see the bottom of the door where it looks like it's bubbling.

Do you have wheel chocks for the bike and 4wheeler?

My lawd look at that 84" screen.. DROOL... sweet.

I wonder if the spare tire on the back caused any damage. My spare was mounted up where there is what looks like a generator carrying area.

Been looking at l.e.d. flood lights for the back of mine. Good light at night for the ramp door. I only have one battery and thought have those light upgraded to led would help. Have led bulbs throughout right now. Battery will last for days as long as I don't need the furnace.

Thanks for sharing the pic. Way cool.
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Actually there is only 1 bolt that goes all the way through the floor. That bolt and nut are grade 5. The other two are like a lag bolt that screws into the wood of the floor...
Nothing to prevent using a ss bolt/nut in the other 2 holes instead of the lags and making an alum backup plate to catch all 3 bolts. That's what we did on our racecar trailer and it held a 1200# racecar.
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the silicone wasn't my idea, thats all the mfgs used to use. i never got one to truly seal without it. think about it for minute. think about the membrane between the ribs and how the clamp never makes contact. the tighter you clamp, the more you open this area. now, im not trying to berate you into redoing this connection. its more like exhort with all long suffering and doctrine....
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the silicone wasn't my idea, thats all the mfgs used to use. i never got one to truly seal without it. think about it for minute. think about the membrane between the ribs and how the clamp never makes contact. the tighter you clamp, the more you open this area. now, im not trying to berate you into redoing this connection. its more like exhort with all long suffering and doctrine....
LOL I'm just going to disconnect the whole thing and be done with it
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was it the allusion to the bible verse that was a little over the top?...heheh. I used to curse that hose design till i realized it had to turn tight radii and not kink. it just sucks to clamp it. sorry for what some label another mental exercise. it just my MO. lets do this...expose it, put a hose down it, fill it till she squirts, and if it leaks try it my way. if it dont, you get to sleep better...
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I like "it don't leak I get to sleep better" lol

In the future to get a look at it again I can remove the inverter. I will do that and hope there was a flat spot and the ribs start way past that point. I know wishful thinking lol
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