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Old 05-29-2015, 03:54 PM   #31
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Not to hijack the thread but a quick question.

Is it possible to check the bearings and NOT replace the seals? Is one able to open up the wheels and check grease and bearings without having to replace the seals?

Just curious.

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Rear or inner bearing cannot be "inspected nor packed" without removing seal.

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Old 05-29-2015, 04:05 PM   #32
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My Dad always said if you're going to error, its better to be a little loose than too tight, as the bearings can seize if they're too tight and get hot. Been following that advice for 45 years with no problems. Always just grabbed the top of the tire and jiggled it real hard. If I feel just the slightest amount of slack I'm good, never used a dial gauge.
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Old 05-29-2015, 04:12 PM   #33
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My Dad always said if you're going to error, its better to be a little loose than too tight, as the bearings can seize if they're too tight and get hot. Been following that advice for 45 years with no problems. Always just grabbed the top of the tire and jiggled it real hard. If I feel just the slightest amount of slack I'm good, never used a dial gauge.
Good advice, basically what I use as you cannot measure the cup to cone clearance once they are assembled. You can measure the clearance between the washer and the cone, but it is a tedious procedure and not really necessary.
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Old 05-29-2015, 07:23 PM   #34
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and I just figured out why timken reduced their spec over the years. Or at least speculated an answer...long fiber grease was the norm back in the day. so its settled...or at least fairly settled compared to most threads...
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Old 06-03-2015, 10:28 PM   #35
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My Dad always said if you're going to error, its better to be a little loose than too tight, as the bearings can seize if they're too tight and get hot. Been following that advice for 45 years with no problems. Always just grabbed the top of the tire and jiggled it real hard. If I feel just the slightest amount of slack I'm good, never used a dial gauge.
Exactly how I did it today, Thanks


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long fiber grease was the norm back in the day
Do Tell. Never heard of long fiber grease.

So I tightened up the castle nut. I turned it a good 1/4 turn. The play that I felt before I tightened it felt like 1/8 or more.

I hand tightened the nut and there is 1/16 now or less. There is some play but a big difference from earlier. I definitely feel more at ease and comfortable taking it on a trip.

Does anyone know the size grease zerk that goes into that axle or is it standard ?
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Old 06-04-2015, 12:13 AM   #36
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im in agreement that ANY play you can feel is enough. my question is by grabbing a large rubber object and wiggling it, at which amount of true distance can you discern that there is play there? I dont think your going to feel less than a 1/32" and say there is definitely play there. it be fun in a perfect world to break out a dial indicator and see what the distances feel like. i know i wont torq and then back off a certain rotation. ill torq and then back off and finger tight and back again to the first castelation. ill run that which i assumed felt like an average of 1/8". never measured. never ran for a different thrust washer because it felt too loose. i know when i posted earlier about real loose ..it was in the 1/4" range. at 14 threads per inch your not going to get too precise though the tang washers give more adjustment than a straight cottar key.
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Old 06-04-2015, 04:26 AM   #37
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Do Tell. Never heard of long fiber grease.

So I tightened up the castle nut. I turned it a good 1/4 turn. The play that I felt before I tightened it felt like 1/8 or more.

I hand tightened the nut and there is 1/16 now or less. There is some play but a big difference from earlier. I definitely feel more at ease and comfortable taking it on a trip.

Does anyone know the size grease zerk that goes into that axle or is it standard ?
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"Long fiber grease" refers to a grease's tendency to produce long, fibrous strands when extruded or placed under pressure. A misnomer of sorts because there are is no fibrous material in the grease. There are short fiber greases too.

I think you nailed it as regards your bearing's preload. A wee wiggle at the OD of the tire is ok, no movement is a recipe for chewed up bearings.

The grease fitting should accept a standard Zerk with a 1/4-20 tapered thread.

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Old 06-04-2015, 06:17 AM   #38
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Zerk Fitting thread size on (Alco/Dexter) Axles can be (1/4-28 SAE or 1/8-27 NPT) Youroo!!
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A wee wiggle at the OD of the tire is ok, no movement is a recipe for chewed up bearing.

I was looking for the term "wee wiggle" in the owners manual and couldn't find it. Is that a technical term? :sly:
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I was looking for the term "wee wiggle" in the owners manual and couldn't find it. Is that a technical term? :sly:
If (wee wiggle) is too much try (a Tad)! Youroo!!
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