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Old 09-09-2012, 09:06 PM   #21
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You do have to take tongue weight into consideration. My trailer is the same way, but when I subtract the almost 1000 lbs of tongue weight, my tires are under the gvwr by several hundred pounds. Although I would like a bigger buffer, it is all legal and under limits.
Exactly, here is another example. My parents have a 34' Jayco 5er that has a GVWR of 13500lbs and 6000lb axles, the tires were load range D with a weight rating of 3000lbs. 3000lbs X 4=12000lbs, 1500lbs under the GVWR of the trailer. But the trailer has a pin weight of 2800 (when using in the summer) up to 3200 (when loaded heading south for the winter. So 13500-2800=10700, which gives a 1300lb buffer. After 4 years and over 25000 miles dad replaced them with load range E tires rated at 3400lbs, same size and only $10-20 more per tire than the lighter ones.

Even on our 26BH that weighs 7000lbs loaded (500lbs under the GVWR) the tires are rated for 1760lbs X 4=7040. 7040-690 lb tongue weight=6350 lbs that the camper tires actually carry. Even loaded to the 7500 GVWR it would still have a 150lb buffer (it would actually be more since if the GVW went up that much atleast some of it would be tongue weight).

I would personally like a bigger buffer than this but at this time I don't, part of the reason I may look for 15" wheels/tires for the camper. Like on my F150's I have D range tires rated for 3000lbs/tire on one (with a 7200lb gvw and E rated for 3640 on the other (with 6950 gvw). Granted thats the what they had to be to get the size tires I wanted, but I should never have to worry about overloaded tires.
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Old 09-09-2012, 10:56 PM   #22
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We just replaced 3 out of 4 tires on our 2400 miles trip to South Dakota. Trail Express tires that have a total of 7500-8000 miles on them. 4th tire will be replaced as will the spare now that we are home. ST225-75-15 Load C came on the trailer. Maintained to the highest degree and the 4th tire looks perfect. But the other three just literally shredded apart.

I know all the manufactures follow the practice of going "cheap" in this area and it is something they should consider changing. My next trailer--whoever the manufactures is--the dealer will be replacing the tires before I leave the lot or the deal will fall through and I move to the next dealer.
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Old 09-09-2012, 11:04 PM   #23
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Trail Express tires ... ST225-75-15 Load C came on the trailer.

I know all the manufactures follow the practice of going "cheap" in this area and it is something they should consider changing. My next trailer--whoever the manufactures is--the dealer will be replacing the tires before I leave the lot or the deal will fall through and I move to the next dealer.
I have the same tires on my TT. Something to look forward to.

I wish I had found this forum before I bought the TT. If I had better tires would have been in the deal for me too.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:50 PM   #24
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I just bought a 2013 19RR. Pulled it home, 125 miles. Left tires are fine. Right front has considerable wear. I believe the axle camber is not correct.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:54 PM   #25
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I just bought a 2013 19RR. Pulled it home, 125 miles. Left tires are fine. Right front has considerable wear. I believe the axle camber is not correct.
Welcome to forum !
Congrats on the new trailer.
Man that's disheartening!
I wonder why this tire didn't wear on its trip from the factory to the dealer ?
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:30 PM   #26
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The dealer probably put new tires on it before selling it. My 28BHG was built in June 2011. I bought it in April 2012 and the tires on it had date codes of November and December 2011. Since I bought it I've put maybe 20 miles on it so wear isn't the problem. I took the wheels off to have them balanced and the shop wasn't able to because they were out of round and wobbled real bad. I have filed a claim with LionsHead and am waiting to see what they do. In the meantime I've gone ahead and ordered 4 Maxxis tires to replace them all. LionsHead said if they replace these defective tires they will just send me the same Trail Express brand. No thanks.....
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:48 PM   #27
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You know wdblack: I still dont understand why all the tires that comes on our trailers are not balanced when we buy the trailer. This is the most stupid saving not to balance the tires and it is on all the trailers no matter if it is a travel trailer or a horse trailer. Just because we dont rides in them automatically means that they dont need balancing!!!!
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:35 PM   #28
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We just replaced 3 out of 4 tires on our 2400 miles trip to South Dakota. Trail Express tires that have a total of 7500-8000 miles on them. 4th tire will be replaced as will the spare now that we are home. ST225-75-15 Load C came on the trailer. Maintained to the highest degree and the 4th tire looks perfect. But the other three just literally shredded apart.

I know all the manufactures follow the practice of going "cheap" in this area and it is something they should consider changing. My next trailer--whoever the manufactures is--the dealer will be replacing the tires before I leave the lot or the deal will fall through and I move to the next dealer.
Don't blame you a bit. I insisted on keeping my 1 yr old GY Marathons and putting them on our new 5er. Dealer was hesitant until I said ok and we started out the door. Then, all of a sudden it was "No problem".
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:29 PM   #29
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I've replaced all 4 tires on my 09 TT. Never had a blowout, but the repair place that was fixing the roof noticed one tire was real bad, and I had it replaced. We then just kept an eye on the others, until this Spring, when I just replaced the other 3. I've kept the tires, for when/if there is a recall...I'm not holding my breath. We put tow masters st205/75r14c1 @ 95.00 a pop. W/a 3 year warranty. They also rotated the 1 tire that was already replaced into a different spot, and said there was very little wear on it. I will, every Spring get the wheels rotated and checked, if for nothing else, my peace of mind. Got the new tires @ America's tire, and they were most helpful.
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All though not a flagstaff, My Salem has Trail Express and I am on the 4th week of warrenty claim with lionshead about them. The first cracks started after 1000 miles of road use. By the end of our first trip (2500 miles) all 4 on the ground had multiple cracks and terrible wear on outer and inner treads not specific to either axle. Jennifer at lionshead said they will only warranty tire for tire and she speculates that it could have been from the extreme temperature differences from winter to summer. (what?!!) the chassis date is December of 2011 and the tire dates are the 36th week of 2011. So what she is telling me is that a replacement set will not even make it through the winter.

I had metal stems installed right after I purchased the camper and had them balanced with the sensors. So regardless I am out 100 bucks for that.

So once they recognize the issue, I will insist they buy them back and I will apply the funds to a new set of good years or maxiss.

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