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Old 02-05-2013, 08:42 PM   #1
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Enough Truck for Grey Wolf 27BHKS

I am getting ready to buy first tt and was looking at a Grey Wolf 27BHKS. Dealer stated my Chevy Silverado 1500 would have no problem towing it. However, after reading some forums i am concerned maybe I don't have enough truck. My 1500 is an 2008 with a 5.3 engine and a 3.73 gear ratio. Its is rated at 7500lbs towing capacity. The Grey Wolf has a dry weight kusted at 5800lbs and max weight at 7800!

Has anybody had any experience towing these with similiar vehicle?
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:59 PM   #2
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The maximum payload rating for the truck is on the drivers door. What is it?
The driver, all passengers, all cargo in or on the truck and the loaded tongue weight of the trailer have to be subtracted from that number.
12% (average or recommended tongue weight) of 7800 is 936. Add everything to that and you'll get an approximate payload.
When hitched up ready for travel my payload (the amount of weight I'm carrying on the truck) is about 1300 pounds.
Just trying to help. Some 1500's or 1/2 tons have very little payload available.
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Sounds too close for comfort. I wouldn't recommend it, regardless of how the math turns out.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:25 PM   #4
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I know this is astupid question...I have a GVWR rating of 7000lbs and GAWR of 3950lbs...which is payload...I am guessing its the 3950?
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:51 PM   #5
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I know this is astupid question...I have a GVWR rating of 7000lbs and GAWR of 3950lbs...which is payload...I am guessing its the 3950?
Your payload is the the GVWR minus the weight of the truck and anything in it. For instance, say your truck weighs an even 5,000 pounds with a full tank of fuel. That leaves you with 2,000 pounds. But now you have to take off the weight of all of the passengers, the stuff they carry and anything else you carry in the bed. For ease of numbers, let's say that's 1,000 pounds. You now have 1,000 pounds remaining for the tongue weight of the camper.

Make sense?
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:48 AM   #6
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Bull, that trailer is a bunkhouse, so I presume there are kids. Load up the entire family (including Fido) in the truck, throw in whatever camping gear (generator, firewood, tool boxes) you expect to carry in the bed, and head to the nearest quarry, landfill, grain storage facility, etc., and see if they will weigh your truck for you. Subtract that weight from your GVWR of 7000 lbs. If you have at least 1000 lbs. of additional payload, then that should handle the tongue weight of the trailer.

You also need to consider whether the receiver hitch is up to the task. There should be a sticker on the hitch stating the maximum weights....both with a weight carrying and a weight distribution figure. That trailer is gonna have around a 1000 lb. tongue weight, so make sure the hitch is rated for that. Many times, when a truck is rated for 7500 lbs., the weight distibuting tongue weight is barely over 10% of the total maximum weight....in that case 750 lbs.

Also, that trailer is around 32'. You did not mention what cab/bed configuration you have, but a long wheelbased truck would be best.......145' minimum, 157" better.


Call your dealer with your VIN to make sure your truck is rated at 7500 lbs. If so, you would need to keep the total weight of the trailer below 7500 lbs.

The big problem with 1/2 tons are the payloads. Load up the family and camping gear, hang a trailer on the bumper, and many times the GVWR is exceeded.
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Bull, that trailer is a bunkhouse, so I presume there are kids. Load up the entire family (including Fido) in the truck, throw in whatever camping gear (generator, firewood, tool boxes) you expect to carry in the bed, and head to the nearest quarry, landfill, grain storage facility, etc., and see if they will weigh your truck for you.
Bull, you could also hit a truck stop and go to a CAT Scale to get weighed. Your wife and kids will think you're nuts , but it'll be worth it to be safe!
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Bull, you could also hit a truck stop and go to a CAT Scale to get weighed.
CAT scales are great, but I didn't mention them because many times the scales listed are closer.

Cat scales are better than the other scales listed once you have a trailer hooked up, to get a tongue weight and axle weights.
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CAT scales are great, but I didn't mention them because many times the scales listed are closer.

Cat scales are better than the other scales listed once you have a trailer hooked up, to get a tongue weight and axle weights.

Makes sense... I think that depends on where you live. Living in the suburbs of Baltimore and DC, I'm possibly the oddity that (I think) the CAT scales are closest. Looking at the OP's profile says Richmond- I wasn't sure what they had around them.

Appreciate your point, though!
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I tow with basically the same truck in GMC form. We have a 2011 Surveyor SP260 with a trailer sticker dry weight of about 4600 lbs and a max weight of 7600 lbs. I likely tow at about 5500 lbs but have a fair amount of weight in the truck with wife, 3 small kids, and a dog. In general it tows quite well. We live in NC and tow both to the beach and in the mountains. Power is fine in the mountains and brakes are OK but they can get a little warm. When I load up the truck bed (bikes) the truck does squat some. I am planning a trip to a scale to get the specific numbers this spring so I can have some better confidence in how much to load the truck and if I can adjust the weight distribution to help some. When I first bought this setup I thought I had plenty of truck for the trailer but have learned that I wouldn't want much less.
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