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Old 02-03-2011, 09:34 AM   #1
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Just bought our first trailer!

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My wife and i just bought our first travel trailer (we were class c and class be campers before)

This weekend we purchased a new Cherokee Greywolf 19RR we werent intending of a toy hauler as most other brand ones we looked at were far to big and really didnt like the layout) and we wanted a trailer under 27' maximum, but we found that the grey wolf 19rr had a wonderfull floorplan and its a small trailers and the open back ( garage area) open enough for our dogs to be in at night and during the day open enough that if we have visiters over we all can visit in it without standing in the aisle. also there is enough room for our bicycles or my motorcycle in it and later a kayak.

like i said we werent looking for a toy hauler but we found the perfect one for our needs even if we dont hauler around alot of quads and dirtbikes. the 19RR is quite friendly for the non toy hauler crowd too!

while we have rving experience we dont have any trailering experience (other than camping in colman pup ups as children 35 years ago)

our tow vehicle (06 nissan armada) has a heavy duty trailering package with transmition cooler trailer lights and brake wiring) class 4 hitch, and we asked our dealer to give us a curt weight ditributing hitch and sway control (for those gusty days)

in our rving days high quality double and triple walled tireds were required for rv wieght and stability. but when i look at trailer tires im not seeing much variety and it looks like alot of them arent even freeway speed legal (my wife and i drove 55-60 and never more in our rv's people in a hurry could pass us) so what do i look for in a trailer tire and wich brands are a good quality brand (not worried about cost id prefer safer than cheaper)

also any tips on how to secure a motorcycle in a toy hauler for the un initiated?
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:49 AM   #2
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Great intro.....the only thing missing is some pictures.

You are wise to get a small trailer for your Armada. Looking quickly at the stats, you should be in good shape for comfortable and safe towing.

Sway bars generally work good on smaller trailers, so you shouldn't have a problem there. I usually add that you can't beat an integrated WDH with sway control like a Equalizer brand or Reese Straight Line Dual Cam. But both of those require a heavy tongue weight, and with the motorcycle in back they might not work as good as the sway bars.

It might be a good idea to weigh your trailer ready for camping with the motorcycle in the back, to make sure you are not taking too much weight off of the tongue. A minimum of 10% of the total trailer weight should be there, and 12% or higher is better.

As far as the tires, what came on the trailer should be OK unless you really load the trailer heavy. Beware, that ST tires are rated for a maximum of 65 mph.
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Old 02-03-2011, 10:04 AM   #3
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As for securing your motorcycle, I had to install "d" rings in the floor of my toy hauler. Some people recommend putting in one of the track system style of tie downs. I'm sure your dealer would do it, for a price, if you are not handy with some basic tools. I made sure and got mine bolted to a cross member on the frame, and not just bolted to the floor. Congrats on the new camper, and welcom
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Old 02-03-2011, 10:36 AM   #4
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our new '11 grey wolf 19rr has 4 d rings (2 fron 2 back) installed already (sorry cant send pics untill it shows up the dealer is installing accessories currently)

and thanks for the advice on the sway controll with the heavy weight of a motorcycle, how do i check the precise amount of weight on the hitch?

my armada's hitch is rated at 9,000 lbs and 910lb tongue weight, how do i make sure i get the precise amount of weight on the hitch? any other options other than storing something heavy in the front of the trailer?

Thanks again for the info
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to the forums. Can't help you with your trailer related questions but I'm sure that others here can. Again, just wanted to welcome you to FRF!!
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Old 02-03-2011, 10:56 AM   #6
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and thanks for the advice on the sway controll with the heavy weight of a motorcycle, how do i check the precise amount of weight on the hitch?

my armada's hitch is rated at 9,000 lbs and 910lb tongue weight, how do i make sure i get the precise amount of weight on the hitch? any other options other than storing something heavy in the front of the trailer?
Load up your camper and head to a local rock quarry or grain facility with truck scales and see if they will let you weigh your rig. A CAT scale would actually be better, as they can weigh each axle individually.

I would suggest going across the scales at least 3 times. 1 with just the Armada, 1 time with the trailer with the motorcycle, and one time without the motorcycle. All of these should be done without the WDH bars in place........with those hooked up, it will give you a false tongue weight.

The differences in weight with the trailers hooked up minus the Armada by itself will equal your tongue weight.

If you really have a friendly scale person, I would suggest getting weights of each axle with the WDH hooked up also.

Just the front axle of the Armada on the scales.
Both axles of the Armada on the scales.
Both the Armada and the trailer on the scales.
Just the trailer axles on the scales.

By doing this both with and without the WDH hooked up, you can figure if your WDH is distributing the weight properly.
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thanks for the advice MTN guy!.

now as someone above posted that the tires that come with it are fine... are they fine for just camping or do i need better tires for the weight of a motorcycle in the trailer, also what are some of the good quality trailer tire brands (in case i need a replacement?)
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You will be fine. Toy Haulers have the axles placed farther back than regular trailers, knowing you may be hauling some heavy stuff. With a 900 pound tongue weight, try to get 1200 pound bars, as a matter of fact, insist on it. I got 1000 pound bars, and put 1000 pounds in the back, still not enough bar on a Reese Dual Cam with a Ford F150. Al little heavier tongue weight to start, I think mine is 970 pounds. Good Luck.
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You will be fine. Toy Haulers have the axles placed farther back than regular trailers, knowing you may be hauling some heavy stuff. With a 900 pound tongue weight, try to get 1200 pound bars, as a matter of fact, insist on it. I got 1000 pound bars, and put 1000 pounds in the back, still not enough bar on a Reese Dual Cam with a Ford F150. Al little heavier tongue weight to start, I think mine is 970 pounds. Good Luck.
Windrider, the listed tongue weight for that trailer is 574 lbs. I betcha 800 lb. bars would be a plenty, especially with carrying a motor cycle in back. You might have read that he has a 910 lb. tongue weight rating on his hitch.

And Covfam, that hitch rating is probably with a weight distributing hitch, correct ??
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Thanks for the correction. I might still opt for the 1000 pound bars if I was going to tow it with water in the tank. That will add 200 plus pounds to the tongue weight in a hurry. Pretty sure the tanks are in front of the axle.
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