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Old 04-09-2017, 08:58 PM   #1
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Rv deep cycle battery

I purchased my Wolf Pup 18To in September and I have to replace my battery already. For some reason it will not hold charge. My original battery that was installed by the dealer was Exide Stowaway 24MDCST. I found Exide Nautilus NG-24 or NG-27 at my local Menards for $69.

Is there a difference between Stowaway and Nautilus?? (12v Both are Marine/RV deep cycle)

Is it better to go with NG-27 (more powerful CCA, MCA, RC over NG-24??

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basically there are deep cycle (RV or Marine) or deep cycle/starting usually only Marine.

CCA is a measure of Cold Cranking Amps, at zero degrees... ( your auto may be in cold weather) more is better

MCA is a measure of Marine Cranking Amps at 32 degrees... (chances are your boat is above freezing, therefore MCA amps are about 25% higher then CCA for the same battery) more is better

probably, if the numbers are the same, Stowaway and Nautilus... one or the other is a different label of the same battery

If prices are equal... I look at total weight... heavier batteries usually have more lead therefore either more energy or built stronger for a pounding usually found in marine applications.
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basically there are deep cycle (RV or Marine) or deep cycle/starting usually only Marine.



CCA is a measure of Cold Cranking Amps, at zero degrees... ( your auto may be in cold weather) more is better



MCA is a measure of Marine Cranking Amps at 32 degrees... (chances are your boat is above freezing, therefore MCA amps are about 25% higher then CCA for the same battery) more is better



probably, if the numbers are the same, Stowaway and Nautilus... one or the other is a different label of the same battery



If prices are equal... I look at total weight... heavier batteries usually have more lead therefore either more energy or built stronger for a pounding usually found in marine applications.


Thank you for quick response.
The Exide Nautilus battery i saw at Menards is for Marine and RV. I was just wondering if i can use bigger - more powerful battery since i have the room in my battery box. I can easly fit bigger battery.
Here is a link to both batteries i saw at menards.


https://www.menards.com/main/electri...4430136307.htm

https://www.menards.com/main/electri...47896712991232
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So what you are looking at is a Group 24 smaller battery
and a Group 27 larger battery...

Group numbers define the physical size of the battery...
First thing I did was re-purpose my dealer supplied Group 24 with a Group 27 as my battery box fit the larger size...

You may not need the larger size, but it certainly will never hurt...

hope that answers your question...
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Ok. Thank you.
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You have been very helpful.
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If you're only using one battery, go with the largest group size that fits in the battery box.

If you can take a Group 31 battery - that's the size you want. I would stay away from the dual purpose ie. marine/deep cycle and buy a straight out Deep Cycle.

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If you're only using one battery, go with the largest group size that fits in the battery box.



If you can take a Group 31 battery - that's the size you want. I would stay away from the dual purpose ie. marine/deep cycle and buy a straight out Deep Cycle.



Reserve minutes is king.


I agree.

RV/marine batteries are not true deep cycle batteries. If you must replace your battery, get a true deep cycle.

Anything listed as CCA (cold cranking amps) and similar (CA, MCA, etc.) is not a true deep cycle.

A true deep cycle battery will be listed as AH (amp hours). If going with pairs of 6v batteries, they are easy to find / suggest. For 12v, I don't know what is available, however folks talk about them all of the time. Trojan (the brand I use for 6v) makes 12v deep cycle. I believe T-1275 is a popular one.
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Thank you for the info.
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How do you tend to camp? Do you always get a site with electrical power or do you camp without power, and if so, how often?

If, like me, you always camp at an electric site, you'll be OK with a Group 24 dual purpose but its better if you can get a Group 27 or Group 31 in case you ever have a power outage at the campground. Interstate makes a decent dual purpose battery. Deka does, too.

If you camp without an electrical connection (i.e. boondocking) others will be much more knowledgeable on that than me.
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I always have an electric hookup.
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I always have an electric hookup.


If you always have an electrical hookup you can get away with any battery as it would seldom get used.

I had a camper that I ran without a battery for years. I just had to plug in before I could run anything. (Not recommend if you have trailer brakes...)
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If the battery is not holding a charge there could be something draining the battery. Common problems are electric steps, radio, monitors etc.
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How do you tend to camp? Do you always get a site with electrical power or do you camp without power, and if so, how often?

If, like me, you always camp at an electric site, you'll be OK with a Group 24 dual purpose but its better if you can get a Group 27 or Group 31 in case you ever have a power outage at the campground. Interstate makes a decent dual purpose battery. Deka does, too.

If you camp without an electrical connection (i.e. boondocking) others will be much more knowledgeable on that than me.


Thank you all for your input on resolving my issue. Since I am always connected to shore power I decided to go with Exide deep cycle battery group 27. My local Menards just had a fresh delivery and I was able to get one for about $59 with production date of Apr 2017. I hope it will fork for few years unlike my original one that came with my TT.
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If the battery is not holding a charge there could be something draining the battery. Common problems are electric steps, radio, monitors etc.


I installed a battery disconnect switch 2 weeks ago why think it was already too late. Battery was trashed.
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If you always have an electrical hookup you can get away with any battery as it would seldom get used.

I had a camper that I ran without a battery for years. I just had to plug in before I could run anything. (Not recommend if you have trailer brakes...)


I just purchased an excite deep cycle battery group 27 at my local Menards. They had a fresh pallet with production date of April 2017 on sale for about $59. It wasn't too expensive will see how it goes. I just sold a battery disconnect switch to weeks ago hope it will help.
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Old 04-10-2017, 05:24 PM   #17
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Disconnect negative side cable each time you put unit into storage and reconnect when you're heading back on the road.

My original battery lasted 5 years.

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You would need a new battery container for the group 27, I upgraded mine after the first year. From 24 to 27, couldn't find a group 31 .
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The Exide Nautilus Deep Cycle is the only true deep cycle they make.
All other deep cycle Exides are dual use models which are cheaper and won't stand up well in boondocking use but are just fine for plugging in full time.
To get maximum life from them...keep the water up (if you didn't get the sealed ones) and use a battery post disconnect when away from the coach to minimize damage from parasitic loads. It goes no the negative post (disregard the RED wire! )

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Is there a reason you disconnect the negative rather than the positive battery cable when putting the camper into storage?
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