Class A Super C?

[halla]

I just saw a post on Facebook that links to a video. Renegade is selling a Super C on a Freightliner Cascadia as a Class A.

Supposedly the truck portion is completely open to the back of the unit making it an “integrated chassis/truck combination”.

If you watch the video it does’t look any different than how our cabs are connected to the chassis.

Seems that if this works, then I think Dynamax is good to reclassify ours as Super A’s.

[bclemens]

They also build on the S2RV and FCCC claims it was designed for Motorhomes...really its not. It's just a renamed business Class truck that is a de-contented M2.
"Custom Tuned Sachs Shocks". You mean stock.

[letsgorving]

I read that RVIA reclassified us saying if you have no cab over you're a class A? But I can't find any info suggesting that now.

[bclemens]

I don't see how they can do that. It has always been Class C based on "Cab Chassis", not the overhang.

[letsgorving]

Well it was "fake news" then. If you haven't heard about it, it isn't so.

[jkoenig24]

Just because a builder makes their product look like a Super-C, doesn't mean you're getting a true Super-C RV.

My understanding is that a TRUE Super-C RV is built on an HDT (Heavy Duty Truck) cab/chassis (ie Class 7 or Class 8 based truck). Federal DOT has SEVEN truck classifications based on GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating). HDTs are either Class 7 or Class 8 (Class 4,5, and 6 are MDTs; Class 1, 2, and 3 are LDTs). A Class 7 HDT starts at 26,001# and goes up to 33,000# GVWR. A Class 8 HDT starts at 33,001# and goes up to whatever the builder specs call for. MANY "wanna-be Super C" RVs are built on Class 6 (or even Class 5) MDTs MEDIUM Duty Trucks). A quick way to check is what size diesel engine is installed. Class 8 = 11 liter engines or more. Class 7 = ~ 9 liter diesel. Class 6 = ~ 6 liter diesel.

The Freightliner M2 "Business Class" cab/chassis can be specced as either a Class 6 MDT OR, as a Class 7 HDT. I've had a couple of truck shops think my Dynamax DX3-37RB was a MEDIUM Duty Truck. I don't know if there would be any difference in parts/service for an MDT vs a HDT but, I always point out that my truck has a GVWR of 33,000# which firmly places it in the HDT category.

[bclemens]

Well, technically, there is official classification as "Super C" at the BMV. Super C is an industry term coined to describe Class C's that are built on chassis larger than the traditional Ford E450 (at 14,500lbs GVWR).

So while people may call lesser rigs a "Super C", it doesn't make them "Super"

[halla]

I like to think that I make mine “super”. LOL. Well maybe mine could be a Stealth C?

[Rrzasa]

Originally Posted by bclemens

Well, technically, there is official classification as "Super C" at the BMV. Super C is an industry term coined to describe Class C's that are built on chassis larger than the traditional Ford E450 (at 14,500lbs GVWR).

So while people may call lesser rigs a "Super C", it doesn't make them "Super"

So is the my Isata 5 considered and "Almost Super C" or a "Super C" since it is 19,500 GVWR?

[bclemens]

It is a "Super" C.

[Rrzasa]

Thanks Brian. On another note, anything new in the pipeline with the Isata 5's? The wife was just telling me that if they made an Isata 5 with triple slides, that would be her next coach. I kind of agree with her, we averaged 11.1 MPG this past weekend trip in our Isata 5. Don't think I'd ever see that in a Force or DX3.

I told her that it would not be 36', it would have to be more like 32' for a triple slide Isata 5 bacause of weight issues.

[halla]

Originally Posted by Rrzasa

Thanks Brian. On another note, anything new in the pipeline with the Isata 5's? The wife was just telling me that if they made an Isata 5 with triple slides, that would be her next coach. I kind of agree with her, we averaged 11.1 MPG this past weekend trip in our Isata 5. Don't think I'd ever see that in a Force or DX3.

I told her that it would not be 36', it would have to be more like 32' for a triple slide Isata 5 bacause of weight issues.

We get 99mpg in the Force HD, every downhill we hit. Lol.

[caswelld]

Originally Posted by Rrzasa

So is the my Isata 5 considered and "Almost Super C" or a "Super C" since it is 19,500 GVWR?

I’m thinking when they put Dynamax on it, you have a “Super” C!

[bclemens]

Originally Posted by Rrzasa

Thanks Brian. On another note, anything new in the pipeline with the Isata 5's? The wife was just telling me that if they made an Isata 5 with triple slides, that would be her next coach. I kind of agree with her, we averaged 11.1 MPG this past weekend trip in our Isata 5. Don't think I'd ever see that in a Force or DX3.

I told her that it would not be 36', it would have to be more like 32' for a triple slide Isata 5 bacause of weight issues.

Nothing yet. Triple slide would be too much weight. My team designed the Sunseeker 2500, Forest 2501. I think that is the only way (that floor plan) where we could get a triple slide. There are some trade offs.

[Orangecrush]

Originally Posted by halla

I like to think that I make mine “super”. LOL. Well maybe mine could be a Stealth C?

Your's is actually an SS

Super Stealth


Mark