Hitch for Dynamax

[724Bravo]

Originally Posted by viperdave

I shouldn't have much issue with my loads in this trailer but I am looking at moving to a stacker. Where did you get yours or did you have it made?? I've been looking for a 3". An adjustable would be great.

Believe it or not I bought it at a True Value Store in MOAB Utah, I think it's made by Reece. But Fixed not adjustable.

[BLK-9]

Thanks. Nice configuration. I'll look into it. I need a configuration to hold at least 850-900lbs tongue weight.


Mike
2016 Force HD

[poof100]

Same issue here, poor design on the towing hitch, as it's way too low. I also bought a 3 to 2" reducer and a raised adjustable hitch. However, the max on a 2" is only 14k lbs or so, takes away from the 20k hitch.

There is an option for the raised 3" if you buy a pintle style raised shank and use the ball option on the pintle mount. I believe Reese sells it. The hitch itself needs to be mounted higher though for towing any kind of real enclosed trailer.

[BLK-9]

Yes. I don't need but about 1-2 (closer to 1) additional height. Thanks for the info.


Mike
2016 Force HD

[viperdave]

Originally Posted by poof100

Same issue here, poor design on the towing hitch, as it's way too low. I also bought a 3 to 2" reducer and a raised adjustable hitch. However, the max on a 2" is only 14k lbs or so, takes away from the 20k hitch.

There is an option for the raised 3" if you buy a pintle style raised shank and use the ball option on the pintle mount. I believe Reese sells it. The hitch itself needs to be mounted higher though for towing any kind of real enclosed trailer.

Thanks for the info. I never looked under the pintle mounts, and on their website if you do not go to the pintle section you will never see this hitch.

I will go to this mount when I upgrade trailers. They have a 3" 25K lb receiver and a 2 5/16 ball mount which is 20k. The hitch is 9" tall so there looks to be plenty of adjustment.

[poof100]

Originally Posted by viperdave

Thanks for the info. I never looked under the pintle mounts, and on their website if you do not go to the pintle section you will never see this hitch.

I will go to this mount when I upgrade trailers. They have a 3" 25K lb receiver and a 2 5/16 ball mount which is 20k. The hitch is 9" tall so there looks to be plenty of adjustment.

Yeah I did a lot of searching trying to find something better than this 3 to 2 reducer mess. Most people like myself and others don't think about the pintle style because the ball isn't popular. I'm going this route as well. Happy to help.

What kind of trailer do you tow? I've got a 30 now but picking up a new 32 soon.

[viperdave]

I pull a 24' H&H enclosed. I'm looking at 26-28' stacker for the next upgrade.

[poof100]

Originally Posted by viperdave

I pull a 24' H&H enclosed. I'm looking at 26-28' stacker for the next upgrade.

I considered a stacker, but then I'd have a hard time towing it around with my 350 locally. I'd be curious as to how the DX3 would tow a 28-32' stacker with 2 cars. I wish the 450hp option was available for the DX3.

[jeffseay]

Originally Posted by viperdave

I pull a 24' H&H enclosed. I'm looking at 26-28' stacker for the next upgrade.

For your 2nd Viper?

[viperdave]

Originally Posted by jeffseay

For your 2nd Viper?

Precisely, sometimes you need your street viper AND your track viper at the same event. or if you want a 1923 & 1939, or twin 69 chevelles, rzrs, rock crawlers. Why can't I travel with a 6 car garage everywhere I go?

[FOURWHL]

Going to need more than a 28' stacker for that garage!

[halla]

Two stackers in a row? Too much?


2016 Dynamax Force. Just-Rite2

[bclemens]

Dynaquest XL maybe. (450 hp, 1250 torque) or maybe when we bring back the Grand Sport on the Cascadia

[viperdave]

I thought I was told that you could get the rig reprogrammed at Frieghtliner for more performance and not void the freightliner warranty. There are after market programs that are cheaper but then you have warranty issues

[poof100]

Originally Posted by viperdave

I thought I was told that you could get the rig reprogrammed at Frieghtliner for more performance and not void the freightliner warranty. There are after market programs that are cheaper but then you have warranty issues

Cummins can reprogram the ISL for different programs, but the version in the DX3 is limited to 345-350hp due to the pistons. The standard DX3 program is 350/1000. There's a program that is 345/1150 and a much better curve but thats the max you can get that Cummins will do and keep the warranty. The 450hp ISL version has different pistons and a slightly different turbo.

I'm not sure about Freightliner, but I would think any authorized Cummins dealer could do this reprogram.

By the way, nice garage!

[halla]

I read somewhere the transmission is the issue with upgrading/performance. The Transmissions can only handle so much. I would love to have Allison tune my transmission to downshift quicker, but I dont know if it is possible.

Force has the ISB, not the ISC, and a different transmission, but I think they are similar.

[viperdave]

Originally Posted by poof100

Cummins can reprogram the ISL for different programs, but the version in the DX3 is limited to 345-350hp due to the pistons. The standard DX3 program is 350/1000. There's a program that is 345/1150 and a much better curve but thats the max you can get that Cummins will do and keep the warranty. The 450hp ISL version has different pistons and a slightly different turbo.

I'm not sure about Freightliner, but I would think any authorized Cummins dealer could do this reprogram.

By the way, nice garage!

Thanks for the info. I willl see how she pulls and hopefully I'll have plenty

[poof100]

Originally Posted by halla

I read somewhere the transmission is the issue with upgrading/performance. The Transmissions can only handle so much. I would love to have Allison tune my transmission to downshift quicker, but I dont know if it is possible.

Force has the ISB, not the ISC, and a different transmission, but I think they are similar.

The DX3 has the Allison 3200 trans, same in the Dynaquest XL models and the Force HD. I think the Force has the 2500 or 3000 Allison so yes much lower torque rating. And yes, the Force is the smaller 6.7 motor, not the 8.9 ISL like the HD and DX3s have.

[poof100]

Originally Posted by viperdave

Thanks for the info. I willl see how she pulls and hopefully I'll have plenty

You should be good, mine tows mine pretty good and been through some good hills/mtns in PA with little slow down. Good luck and have fun!

[halla]

I actually talked to my Freightliner dealer about a crate motor and transmission for the Force, a little cost prohibitive.