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Old 08-28-2016, 10:40 PM   #101
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We just spent two days shopping the Sprinter chassis products in the Dallas area and I still believe the Isata 3 is the best bang for the buck. We looked at the Winnebago View, Thor Synergy, Jayco Melbourne and Forest River Sunseeker and Siesta.

The standard features are just superior to what we saw in the competition. Just waiting for the FWM model with the Trauma hot water heater to show up. All the ones we saw had the Attwood.

Only item that would be nice that is not already present is the steering wheel controls for the dash. I agree with changing out the shower door to the light weight option.

I could not find the CCC anywhere on the units, so if anyone can share what their CCC is for the FWM model, that would be great as I figure out our loading.
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Old 08-28-2016, 10:52 PM   #102
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We just spent two days shopping the Sprinter chassis products in the Dallas area and I still believe the Isata 3 is the best bang for the buck. We looked at the Winnebago View, Thor Synergy, Jayco Melbourne and Forest River Sunseeker and Siesta.

The standard features are just superior to what we saw in the competition. Just waiting for the FWM model with the Trauma hot water heater to show up. All the ones we saw had the Attwood.

Only item that would be nice that is not already present is the steering wheel controls for the dash. I agree with changing out the shower door to the light weight option.

I could not find the CCC anywhere on the units, so if anyone can share what their CCC is for the FWM model, that would be great as I figure out our loading.
We decided to order our rig because we only wanted the Truma Aqua Go...all new coaches off the production line now feature it plus the new shower door. We also wanted to increase our CCC even more by ordering Hi-Tec Aluminum Rims (153 lb savings). We were also told that the CCC on our new RW would be approximately 1,000 to 1,100 lbs., but it is all based on what options you get. We have the stabilizer jacks and solar panels, so may be even less. Not alot, coming from the 3,500 lbs of our prior Northwood Arctic Fox Trailer, but we will make it work.
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:11 AM   #103
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I'm not sure where the 153 lbs savings came in. I don't think its that high. Although I don't think we factored in the weight of the wheel liners that are not necessary into our weight savings number.
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Old 08-29-2016, 09:30 AM   #104
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I'm not sure where the 153 lbs savings came in. I don't think its that high. Although I don't think we factored in the weight of the wheel liners that are not necessary into our weight savings number.
Thank you BClemens. Oops...my typo error as we look back at the input provided us when researching aluminum wheels vs steel. We had our local dealer compare the weights of each using 16" rims. There was a 13.25 lbs. difference per rim...53 lbs. for set of 4, NOT 153. While comparing the Navion product with the Isata 3, the Winnebago rep had included the benefit of aluminum rims in their weight savings total...just assumed Dynamax did also.
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Old 08-29-2016, 04:51 PM   #105
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Weight Savings...

Saving 50 pounds here, 50 pounds there can really start to add up. Hoping to get to a configuration offering over 1000 pounds of OCCC. I've seen a couple examples of the 24FW with an OCCC at 870-880 with the heavy shower door, hellwig sway bar, and solar panels, and rear stabilizer. Without removing the sway bar, solar, and stabilizer, can we get above 1000 lbs OCCC? The show door is 50lbs... What's the full scoop on the aluminum rims (weight savings/price)?What else can be done to maximize the OCCC? How high can we go?

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Old 08-30-2016, 11:03 AM   #106
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We're always looking at ways.

1. I would not get rid of the solid surface galley. However, we can do foam core counters everywhere else. The only issue is that it will have an edging, like HPL (not quite though, it would be a contrasting decorative edge). That is something we are toying with on the design side.

2. The early stabilizers were hydraulic, and we have switched to electric, which shaved 30-40 lbs.

3. The shower door cuts 50-60.

4. Aluminum rims, cut 6lbs per wheel (x4), but you also lose the wheel liners for a total savings of about 44lbs.

So, assuming 870 at its heaviest. Best case 60 (shower), 44 (wheels), 40 (stabilizers), that puts you at 1014.

If we do a stainless steel sink, we can save another 20lbs on the vessel.

Unfortunately we use a thicker gel coated Azdel than most (makes for a better looking, straighter wall), we use denser 2 lbs foam core, instead of 1.3 or 1.5. Again, better insulation and more rigid wall. Those are areas we won't cut, but weight more than others.
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Old 08-30-2016, 05:51 PM   #107
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Brain , please don't go to those cheap counter tops like u described. I built mobile homes in my younger days and was over cabinet n other departments. We called the edging TMold and it looks bad n tears up easily just my two cents . Was so glad when we stopped using it
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Old 08-30-2016, 05:56 PM   #108
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I know what T molding is. It's not T mold.
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Over the past couple of weeks I have read this topic and I have to commend Brian for his commitment. We were at the GOSHEN Rally and got to see the Isata 3 for the first time in person. We went to see it every day while we were at the rally. We were very impressed with the build quality and the support we have had from Forest River in the past and so glad to see a floor plan that would allow us back into the MBS class with an awesome floor plan. We have owned (2) Pop-ups, a conversion van, (4) Motorhomes, (2) Travel Trailers and a Fifth Wheel. Knowing the support that Forest River and Dynamax provide, the earlier posts did not sway us away from the Isata 3. We ended up purchasing a 2017 with the full slide. We love it and thanks to Jared Graber from Forest River, we are the happy owners of a brand stinking new 2017 Isata 3 24FW!!

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Again, welcome to the family.

While we're not perfect...I think everyone that follows this forum knows that we're here, ready and willing to help.
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